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3 minutes ago, Mainecat said:

Iran has requested the US help investigate.

if Iran shot this jet down its on Trump. 

You all should add this to his impeachment articles....seeing as how you are going to be sitting ont them...indefinitely.  :lol: 

What a fucking clown show.

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2 hours ago, franks pond said:

Iranian Air Force shot it down because it had a lot of IRGC people on board including Zeinab Soleimani. These were Iranian sleeper that had come home for the funeral of Qasem Soleimani and to receive orders for attack from within the USA. Some of the Canadians also had US citizenship. The names of some were fake. Others were just messengers for more dangerous people already in Canada/USA.

 

There is a war now in Iran, between the moderates who wanted out from under the yoke of Soleimani, and hardliners who want to launch jihad right now. Over 90 IRGC officers have been arrested by IRGC intelligence, following the pattern shown in the UK where MI6 cleaned house, and in the USA where the CIA has been ejecting rogue elements or terminating them.

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SMH

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1 hour ago, spin_dry said:

Wasn’t a terrorist to me. Simply a patriot looking out for the interest of his nation. 

I guess Hitler was a patriot to most Germans as well.  Is the US responsible for that disaster because we helped beat them in world war 1?

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Without Trump trying to distract from his impeachment by executing Iran’s top general, setting off a war with Iran this commercial jetliner would have never been shot down.

Trump is to blame for the deaths of hundreds of innocent lives.

FUCK TRUMP

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4 minutes ago, Mainecat said:

Without Trump trying to distract from his impeachment by executing Iran’s top general, setting off a war with Iran this commercial jetliner would have never been shot down.

Trump is to blame for the deaths of hundreds of innocent lives.

FUCK TRUMP

Wow.

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2 minutes ago, Mainecat said:

Without Trump trying to distract from his impeachment by executing Iran’s top general, setting off a war with Iran this commercial jetliner would have never been shot down.

Trump is to blame for the deaths of hundreds of innocent lives.

FUCK TRUMP

JESUS!  :lol: 

 

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2 minutes ago, Angry ginger said:

Trumpsa ctions lead to the death of a bunch of Canadians.   He should resign tomorrow over this airliner incident.  

Bullshit......let me put my maga hat on..

There now , I'll tell you how it is

That plane was probably going to crash into an urban population center and kill many millions of people.

If Trump hadnt escalated this conflict and IRAn hadnt shot that plane down then millions dead , bam.

Trump saved millions of lives

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1 hour ago, $poorsledder$ said:

I guess Hitler was a patriot to most Germans as well.  Is the US responsible for that disaster because we helped beat them in world war 1?

Hitler. :lol: he’s such a convenient go to. 

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FYI, when there is an aircraft accident investigation that is being investigated by an Approved Authority, it is done under the guidelines contained in ICAO (International Civil Aviation Organization) Annex 13.  It contains recommended Practices covering Aircraft Accident and Incident Investigation, defines an accident as an occurrence associated with the operation of an aircraft:

- in which a person is fatally or seriously injured;

- in which an aircraft sustains damage or structural failure requiring repair;

- after which the aircraft in question is classified as being missing

 

Which State or States are responsible for conducting an accident investigation, and what other States may participate?

The State of Occurrence - Iran, Iran will head the investigation

Besides the State of Occurrence, Annex 13 also identifies the additional States which are entitled to appoint an accredited representative (with or without associated advisers) to take part in an

The State of Registry - Ukraine

The State of Design - USA - Boeing, basically the State having jurisdiction over the company responsible for the aircraft type design.

The State of Manufacture - USA - Boeing, again the State having jurisdiction over the company responsible for the final assembly of the aircraft.

 

Additionally, a State which has a special interest in an accident, for example by virtue of the number of its citizens involved in or impacted by it, is also entitled to appoint an expert to the accident investigation.  - Canada in this case 63 on board.

These special interest State experts are entitled to:

- visit the scene of the accident;

- have access to the factual information released by the State in charge;

- receive a copy of the accident investigation Final Report.

That is the basic 101 on aircraft accident investigation process.

The DFR, CVR and any NVM or QAR's data will be controlled by the Iranian Authorities, they can ask for help from whichever investigative authority they choose. 

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7 minutes ago, Poncho said:

FYI, when there is an aircraft accident investigation that is being investigated by an Approved Authority, it is done under the guidelines contained in ICAO (International Civil Aviation Organization) Annex 13.  It contains recommended Practices covering Aircraft Accident and Incident Investigation, defines an accident as an occurrence associated with the operation of an aircraft:

- in which a person is fatally or seriously injured;

- in which an aircraft sustains damage or structural failure requiring repair;

- after which the aircraft in question is classified as being missing

 

Which State or States are responsible for conducting an accident investigation, and what other States may participate?

The State of Occurrence - Iran, Iran will head the investigation

Besides the State of Occurrence, Annex 13 also identifies the additional States which are entitled to appoint an accredited representative (with or without associated advisers) to take part in an

The State of Registry - Ukraine

The State of Design - USA - Boeing, basically the State having jurisdiction over the company responsible for the aircraft type design.

The State of Manufacture - USA - Boeing, again the State having jurisdiction over the company responsible for the final assembly of the aircraft.

 

Additionally, a State which has a special interest in an accident, for example by virtue of the number of its citizens involved in or impacted by it, is also entitled to appoint an expert to the accident investigation.  - Canada in this case 63 on board.

These special interest State experts are entitled to:

- visit the scene of the accident;

- have access to the factual information released by the State in charge;

- receive a copy of the accident investigation Final Report.

That is the basic 101 on aircraft accident investigation process.

The DFR, CVR and any NVM or QAR's data will be controlled by the Iranian Authorities, they can ask for help from whichever investigative authority they choose. 

Glad you chimed in Poncho.  :bc:

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