1trailmaker Posted September 28, 2019 Share Posted September 28, 2019 2 minutes ago, irv said: You're a fucking idiot and I'm done with ya. Clueless, simply clueless. It's reasonable to assume that changes in the Sun's energy output would cause the climate to change, since the Sun is the fundamental source of energy that drives our climate system. Indeed, studies show that solar variability has played a role in past climate changes. For example, a decrease in solar activity coupled with an increase in volcanic activity is thought to have helped trigger the Little Ice Age between approximately 1650 and 1850, when Greenland cooled from 1410 to the 1720s and glaciers advanced in the Alps. But several lines of evidence show that current global warming cannot be explained by changes in energy from the Sun: Since 1750, the average amount of energy coming from the Sun either remained constant or increased slightly. If the warming were caused by a more active Sun, then scientists would expect to see warmer temperatures in all layers of the atmosphere. Instead, they have observed a cooling in the upper atmosphere, and a warming at the surface and in the lower parts of the atmosphere. That's because greenhouse gases are trapping heat in the lower atmosphere. Climate models that include solar irradiance changes can’t reproduce the observed temperature trend over the past century or more without including a rise in greenhouse gases. THAT IS WHY I POSTED THAT CHART FOR YOU - READ AND LEARN THIS IS WHY THE CONSERVATIVES NO LONGER SAY IT IS FAKE NEWS BY LIBERALS SINCE IT IS FACT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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ArcticCrusher Posted September 28, 2019 Share Posted September 28, 2019 10 minutes ago, 1trailmaker said: warmer temps did. are you really that out to lunch you didn't know that now explain the increase in average temp in the past 100 years not seen ever that we know of including during THE ICE AGE - Barb call the last ice age a weather event. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcticCrusher Posted September 28, 2019 Share Posted September 28, 2019 5 minutes ago, 1trailmaker said: It's reasonable to assume that changes in the Sun's energy output would cause the climate to change, since the Sun is the fundamental source of energy that drives our climate system. Indeed, studies show that solar variability has played a role in past climate changes. For example, a decrease in solar activity coupled with an increase in volcanic activity is thought to have helped trigger the Little Ice Age between approximately 1650 and 1850, when Greenland cooled from 1410 to the 1720s and glaciers advanced in the Alps. But several lines of evidence show that current global warming cannot be explained by changes in energy from the Sun: Since 1750, the average amount of energy coming from the Sun either remained constant or increased slightly. If the warming were caused by a more active Sun, then scientists would expect to see warmer temperatures in all layers of the atmosphere. Instead, they have observed a cooling in the upper atmosphere, and a warming at the surface and in the lower parts of the atmosphere. That's because greenhouse gases are trapping heat in the lower atmosphere. Climate models that include solar irradiance changes can’t reproduce the observed temperature trend over the past century or more without including a rise in greenhouse gases. THAT IS WHY I POSTED THAT CHART FOR YOU - READ AND LEARN THIS IS WHY THE CONSERVATIVES NO LONGER SAY IT IS FAKE NEWS BY LIBERALS SINCE IT IS FACT Anyone do a model to the effects of mass harnessing of the renewables to future planet temps? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1trailmaker Posted September 28, 2019 Share Posted September 28, 2019 33 minutes ago, ArcticCrusher said: Barb call the last ice age a weather event. a hugely one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sksman Posted September 28, 2019 Share Posted September 28, 2019 3 hours ago, 1trailmaker said: you need to read up on the current temps and how much it has gone up in the past century - its all factual data with no politics attached... Whether this is due to the industrial era is not proven So what are you denying again? the actual recorded temps are fake stop posting meme's about carbon taxing, nobody really wants that and it isn't a part of any topic here Sorry Fail, the temps in late 1800’s and early 1900’s were higher. Climate Barbie and crew have decided to ignore actual temps from history and use climate models with their estimates. As most understand Fail the Liberals are removing the history that proves their theory is full of shit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1trailmaker Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 1 hour ago, irv said: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1trailmaker Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 26 minutes ago, Sksman said: Sorry Fail, the temps in late 1800’s and early 1900’s were higher. Climate Barbie and crew have decided to ignore actual temps from history and use climate models with their estimates. As most understand Fail the Liberals are removing the history that proves their theory is full of shit. was cool out the other day the liberals are removing all evidence holy fuck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1trailmaker Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 The Earth's climate has changed throughout history. Just in the last 650,000 years there have been seven cycles of glacial advance and retreat, with the abrupt end of the last ice age about 7,000 years ago marking the beginning of the modern climate era — and of human civilization. Most of these climate changes are attributed to very small variations in Earth’s orbit that change the amount of solar energy our planet receives. The current warming trend is of particular significance because most of it is extremely likely (greater than 95 percent probability) to be the result of human activity since the mid-20th century and proceeding at a rate that is unprecedented over decades to millennia.1 Earth-orbiting satellites and other technological advances have enabled scientists to see the big picture, collecting many different types of information about our planet and its climate on a global scale. This body of data, collected over many years, reveals the signals of a changing climate. The heat-trapping nature of carbon dioxide and other gases was demonstrated in the mid-19th century.2 Their ability to affect the transfer of infrared energy through the atmosphere is the scientific basis of many instruments flown by NASA.(IRV FROM FS DENIES OUR FINDINGS AND OUR INSTRUMENTS AS BS) There is no question that increased levels of greenhouse gases must cause the Earth to warm in response. Ice cores drawn from Greenland, Antarctica, and tropical mountain glaciers show that the Earth’s climate responds to changes in greenhouse gas levels. Ancient evidence can also be found in tree rings, ocean sediments, coral reefs, and layers of sedimentary rocks. This ancient, or paleoclimate, evidence reveals that current warming is occurring roughly ten times faster than the average rate of ice-age-recovery warming.3 but the ice melted IRV states NASA is full of shit I assume Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1trailmaker Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 SK and IRV again deny NASA's findings The planet's average surface temperature has risen about 1.62 degrees Fahrenheit (0.9 degrees Celsius) since the late 19th century, a change driven largely by increased carbon dioxide and other human-made emissions into the atmosphere.4 Most of the warming occurred in the past 35 years, with the five warmest years on record taking place since 2010. Not only was 2016 the warmest year on record, but eight of the 12 months that make up the year — from January through September, with the exception of June — were the warmest on record for those respective months. 5 Global sea level rose about 8 inches in the last century. The rate in the last two decades, however, is nearly double that of the last century and is accelerating slightly every year.10 IRV calls out NASA and their orbiting Observatories as Liberal BS floating around space pushing an agenda Orbiting Carbon Observatory-2 (OCO-2) Watching the Earth breathe from space... Measuring carbon dioxide from space OCO-2 daily Lite files are now available Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1trailmaker Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 1 hour ago, Sksman said: Sorry Fail, the temps in late 1800’s and early 1900’s were higher. Climate Barbie and crew have decided to ignore actual temps from history and use climate models with their estimates. As most understand Fail the Liberals are removing the history that proves their theory is full of shit. https://www.temperaturerecord.org/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muskoka1 Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 14 hours ago, 1trailmaker said: oh the ONEWAYS have spoken Just in case you didn't know this wasn't a Trudeau event nor a Canadian one, it was world wide 10's of millions of people marching all across the globe, all except the conservative leaders here in Ottawa and Ontario nothing to miss, no votes to get - stay at home and do nothing is the answer I guess you guys still see this as a non issue, clearly some of you don't understand what climate is even, comments like he arrived in a plane is just showing the lack of understanding on the subject. I think they missed a great opportunity to gain votes and look promising in their platform - ANDREW lost all of that now I've lived in the country most of my life and spend most days outdoors-have a rough idea what climate is Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muskoka1 Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 11 hours ago, Sksman said: So what has Justin Trudeau done to reduce climate change? Other then Taxed Canadians? Has Justin Trudeau reduced his carbon footprint? It’s hard for intelligent people to take a poser like Trudeau seriously. Where are the CO2 meters on every corner if a carbon tax is having any effect-obviously not as they won't register any change-people still have to get from a to b! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muskoka1 Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 10 hours ago, 1trailmaker said: Pretty funny AC - This topic is hear for the next couple of decades The concept of not lets kill the world is a good one, one that the cons will fight to the death (of the world) Can you explain how this concept is wrong and goes against your beliefs forget carbon tax that wasn't the protesting Did you march fail? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muskoka1 Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 10 hours ago, 1trailmaker said: yes we know planes leave a carbon foot print - do you think it is the same foot print as even a plane 10 years ago? Too bad Ontario is getting hosed due to FORD cancelling contracts and everything green - saved nothing but cost us Millions YOU CHEER IT You are not really that in tune to what this is suppose to achieve, you will when ANDREW tells you what his plan is for Climate Change, you will not deny that STATEMENT as fake you will agree with him and post it as a great idea to combat climate change... As long as HE states you will have more money in your pocket Can't wait for that day Same way you talk about Dopey and his screwed-up ideas! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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ManOnManOral Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 11 hours ago, Muskoka1 said: Where are the CO2 meters on every corner if a carbon tax is having any effect-obviously not as they won't register any change-people still have to get from a to b! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muskoka1 Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 54 minutes ago, ManOnManOral said: What a joke! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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ArcticCrusher Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 Scientists being put to good use. https://www.cp24.com/mobile/lifestyle/human-interest/five-meals-a-week-scientists-audit-garbage-to-assess-household-food-waste-1.4612329 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcticCrusher Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 More taxes, bigger deficits. What a shit show. https://beta.ctvnews.ca/national/federal-election-2019/2019/9/29/1_4615695.html 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcticCrusher Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 How do we kill innovation. Elect May. https://torontosun.com/news/national/robot-tax-greens-propose-a-robot-tax-when-companies-replace-workers-with-machines/wcm/f81e1fa6-cf5e-40ee-be71-13d42cfb1b6a Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcticCrusher Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 (edited) Click the video and watch the ad. Is that a banana stuff in your pants or are you just happy to see me. https://www.thepostmillennial.com/breaking-high-quality-video-of-trudeau-in-blackface-released/ Edited September 29, 2019 by ArcticCrusher 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muskoka1 Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 1 hour ago, ArcticCrusher said: How do we kill innovation. Elect May. https://torontosun.com/news/national/robot-tax-greens-propose-a-robot-tax-when-companies-replace-workers-with-machines/wcm/f81e1fa6-cf5e-40ee-be71-13d42cfb1b6a Back to the horse & buggy! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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