spin_dry Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 Just now, steve from amherst said: I prefer the cops just shoot em Plenty of that happening. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cold War Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 I guess it Is all a matter of perspective. I watch a lot of Dateline and other murder porn shows. When it is your child brutally, viciously beaten and killed you really don’t give two fucks about how much it costs to kill the animal that did it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zambroski Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 2 minutes ago, Cold War said: I guess it Is all a matter of perspective. I watch a lot of Dateline and other murder porn shows. When it is your child brutally, viciously beaten and killed you really don’t give two fucks about how much it costs to kill the animal that did it. My biggest concern would be them taken into custody before I can get to them. Out justice system is a joke....up and down. “Justice” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angry ginger Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 9 minutes ago, steve from amherst said: I prefer the cops just shoot em sadly cops shoot and kill those involved in minor crimes more often than hardened criminals Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member steve from amherst Posted November 5, 2019 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted November 5, 2019 3 minutes ago, Angry ginger said: sadly cops shoot and kill those involved in minor crimes more often than hardened criminals yep, those are the ones that fight. Lifelong shitbags know how to play the game Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member steve from amherst Posted November 5, 2019 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted November 5, 2019 14 minutes ago, spin_dry said: Plenty of that happening. cool 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted November 5, 2019 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted November 5, 2019 No reason we shouldn't be able to fast track some to execution. I fully support the death penalty but not for circumstantial cases like Scott Peterson. If there is concrete physical evidence then there is no reason for so many appeals. That is a joke. Lifers however should do hard time. No god damn TV and internet. Throw them in a small cell and let them rot. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racer254 Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, Kivalo said: Spin is right, the way we do it in America is highly expensive. Mostly government funded defense, unlimited appeals... Its not cheap to execute someone these days. LOL This is exactly the response I expected. It's not the actual cost of the execution or incarceration and if it was done in a timely manner it would be way cheaper. With dna evidence now-a-days, it should be fast tracked. Edited November 5, 2019 by racer254 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold Member Kivalo Posted November 5, 2019 Gold Member Share Posted November 5, 2019 51 minutes ago, steve from amherst said: Without knowing healthcare costs for a 75 yr old inmate 30 yrs from now the " its cheaper " is nothing but speculation Go ahead and look it up. Sure, perhaps in certain instances an inmate is more expensive alive vs dead but on average its cheaper to house them than to execute them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold Member Kivalo Posted November 5, 2019 Gold Member Share Posted November 5, 2019 1 minute ago, racer254 said: LOL This is exactly the response I expected. It's not the actual cost of the execution or incarceration and if it was done in a timely manner it would be way cheaper. With dna evidence now-a-days, it should be fast tracked. You're arguing something is cheaper based on the way you think it should be. Spin and I both pointed out the way it currently is. The reality is, under our present system, it is cheaper to house than to execute. This is so because we are at least attempting to not execute innocent people. You are under no obligation to like it but facts are facts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted November 5, 2019 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted November 5, 2019 42 minutes ago, Cold War said: I guess it Is all a matter of perspective. I watch a lot of Dateline and other murder porn shows. When it is your child brutally, viciously beaten and killed you really don’t give two fucks about how much it costs to kill the animal that did it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cold War Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 41 minutes ago, Zambroski said: My biggest concern would be them taken into custody before I can get to them. Out justice system is a joke....up and down. “Justice” Sure is, and apparently there is nothing we can do about it. We shouldn't even try. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angry ginger Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 16 minutes ago, racer254 said: LOL This is exactly the response I expected. It's not the actual cost of the execution or incarceration and if it was done in a timely manner it would be way cheaper. With dna evidence now-a-days, it should be fast tracked. I would agree with that. There was far more doubt in the past with questionable convictions but with today technology lots of the argument against the death penalty is removed. Convict, quick appeal, execute. Really should be no such thing as a life sentence. It is a waste of money keeping someone alive just to die. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cold War Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 8 minutes ago, Highmark said: Quote Yes, very cost effective. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cold War Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 Weird how when it comes to lawyers making big money off something ...............we cant do anything. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SVT MXZ XRS Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 12 hours ago, spin_dry said: The absolute most costly form of punishment. You can thank the Dumbs for that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racer254 Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 20 minutes ago, Kivalo said: You're arguing something is cheaper based on the way you think it should be. Spin and I both pointed out the way it currently is. The reality is, under our present system, it is cheaper to house than to execute. This is so because we are at least attempting to not execute innocent people. You are under no obligation to like it but facts are facts. Facts are that it would be cheaper to execute a prisoner if we treated the death penalty the same as other sentences. Instead the rules change when the death penalty is involved. Using the argument that the death penalty is too expensive as a reason to abolish it is funny. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold Member Kivalo Posted November 5, 2019 Gold Member Share Posted November 5, 2019 Just now, racer254 said: Facts are that it would be cheaper to execute a prisoner if we treated the death penalty the same as other sentences. Instead the rules change when the death penalty is involved. Using the argument that the death penalty is too expensive as a reason to abolish it is funny. In this thread who used the cost to justify abolishing it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spin_dry Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 16 minutes ago, racer254 said: Facts are that it would be cheaper to execute a prisoner if we treated the death penalty the same as other sentences. Instead the rules change when the death penalty is involved. Using the argument that the death penalty is too expensive as a reason to abolish it is funny. Keep living in your false land of the way it should be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ez ryder Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, Highmark said: No reason we shouldn't be able to fast track some to execution. I fully support the death penalty but not for circumstantial cases like Scott Peterson. If there is concrete physical evidence then there is no reason for so many appeals. That is a joke. Lifers however should do hard time. No god damn TV and internet. Throw them in a small cell and let them rot. old school chain gang . and medical testing are good places to start . also not sure why the govenment needs to spend so much on crash test dumys . Edited November 5, 2019 by Ez ryder 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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