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2 Democrats buck Pelosi and vote against resolution formalizing Trump impeachment inquiry

 

 
 
Yahoo News
CHRISTOPHER WILSON
Oct 31st 2019 1:29PM
 

Reps. Collin Peterson of Minnesota’s 7th Congressional District and Jeff Van Drew of New Jersey’s 2nd were the only two Democrats to vote against Thursday’s resolution that formalizes the next steps in the impeachment inquiry of President Trump. Not a single Republican voted to pass the measure, although Rep. Justin Amash, a member of the GOP until he reclassified as an independent in July, voted yes. The resolution passed by a vote of 232-196.

Peterson’s district along the western edge of Minnesota went to Trump in the 2016 presidential election by 31 points and is considered a 2020 toss-up by the nonpartisan Cook Political Report. Peterson was first elected to Congress in 1990 and is current chair of the House Agriculture Committee. He drew scrutiny last year when he was one of five Democrats who voted against ending the United States’ support of Saudi Arabia’s war in Yemen. When asked about the vote, Peterson told a reporter, “I don’t know a damn thing about it.”

"If anyone thinks a partisan impeachment process would constrain President Trump, they are fooling themselves," Peterson said in a statement last month. "Without significant bipartisan support, impeachment proceedings will be a lengthy and divisive action with no resolution."

Following the vote, Peterson issued a statement where he said moving forward with impeachment was a mistake without the support of Senate Republicans.

 

 

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Peterson has not yet committed to running for reelection, but the Minneapolis Star Tribune reported that his longtime allies expect him to seek a 16th term. He won by just 4 percent last year, down from a 26 percent margin of victory in 2012. The Trump campaign has been outspoken in its belief that Trump can win Minnesota, where he lost by just 1.5 points in 2016. However, a recent poll showed him losing there to four different Democratic options by at least nine points.

Van Drew is a freshman, a former New Jersey state senator who was elected to represent the southern part of the Garden State last year. Trump won the 2nd District by five points in 2016, one point below his margin of victory in the 3rd District of Rep. Andy Kim, who voted yes on the resolution.

“All that’s swirling around us now is impeachment,” said Van Drew in a Fox News interview last month. “We talk about it day and night; it’s what’s on the news, and frankly I think it’s fine if they still want to continue to have the type of investigations they did to see if something new turns up. There is nothing that’s turned up that truly is impeachable.”

In September, Trump thanked Van Drew via Twitter for his skepticism regarding impeachment.

After Thursday’s vote, Van Drew issued a statement in which he said, "However, now that a vote has taken place and we are moving forward, I will be making a judgment call based on all the evidence presented by these investigations."

Along with Peterson and Van Drew, Democratic Reps. Jared Golden of Maine, Joe Cunningham of South Carolina, Kendra Horn of Oklahoma, Ron Kind of Wisconsin and Anthony Brindisi of New York all voiced skepticism about supporting an impeachment inquiry, but all ended up voting yes.

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3 hours ago, racinfarmer said:

I think it is odd how the left leaning  political types are lambasting Peterson for listening to a majority of his constituents.  

If he goes after Trump he might as well start packing his bags.  His district is deep red territory.

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2 hours ago, spin_dry said:

Strap in. It’s going to be a fun ride!!!  🙂

Just what do you think is fun about wasting taxpayer money on a witchhunt?  Don't you want politicians in DC to actually do a job?  You have been bitching about a budget forever, yet you think this is time well spent?  If your car was in the shop and your mechanic was too busy arguing with another about how he does business you would have a fit.   FFS get your head out of your ass.  This is what America is starting to wake up to.

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2 hours ago, racer254 said:

Just what do you think is fun about wasting taxpayer money on a witchhunt?  Don't you want politicians in DC to actually do a job?  You have been bitching about a budget forever, yet you think this is time well spent?  If your car was in the shop and your mechanic was too busy arguing with another about how he does business you would have a fit.   FFS get your head out of your ass.  This is what America is starting to wake up to.

The country voted in chaos with trump. And that is what it is. 

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21 minutes ago, spin_dry said:

The country voted in chaos with trump. And that is what it is. 

Exactly...everybody was cheering for Donald to burn the place down and one way or another it's going to happen. 

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4 hours ago, Jimmy Snacks said:

Exactly...everybody was cheering for Donald to burn the place down and one way or another it's going to happen. 

Trump has laid bare the uselessness of the partisanship that is Washington politics. Impeachment from where we are now is not going to happen. Trump at this point is a necessary evil.  Durham did not impanel a Grand jury so that he could hand out parking tickets. Yes this will be fun.

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5 hours ago, spin_dry said:

The country voted in chaos with trump. And that is what it is. 

Really?  A DC outsider was voted in to the top position and you call that voting in chaos?   I call it changing of the guard and it really needed to happen if you look at the reactions by many in DC.

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1 minute ago, Carlos Danger said:

Trump has laid bare the uselessness of the partisanship that is Washington politics. Impeachment from where we are now is not going to happen. Trump at this point is a necessary evil.  Durham did not impanel a Grand jury so that he could hand out parking tickets. Yes this will be fun.

You don't think Trump is a partisan? 

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5 minutes ago, Jimmy Snacks said:

You don't think Trump is a partisan? 

I think Trump is the enima Washington has needed for some time now. We will never get to a level of more serious political discussion with the current level of blind partisanship and self serving politicians. If we really want to get to a point where candidates like Gabbard or Kasich debate policy in a thoughtful manner we need to marginalize the partisans. Who does a better job of that than Trump.

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38 minutes ago, racer254 said:

What actions has he specifically done to prove this?

His very existence in DC is based on partisan support from Republicans...where has he reached across the aisle to prove otherwise?

9 minutes ago, bussman said:

In the classic sense I don’t think so. 

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7 minutes ago, Jimmy Snacks said:

-*/His very existence in DC is based on partisan support from Republicans...where has he reached across the aisle to prove otherwise?

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There's not much over there on the other side. The modern Dem. Party is a bunch of lying, corrupt losers and there's so many examples. Pro illegal immigration, Brett Kavanaugh debacle and now this impeachment BS, just to name a few. I'm not giving a pass to Reps. but the Dems are much worse.

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1 hour ago, Jimmy Snacks said:

His very existence in DC is based on partisan support from Republicans...where has he reached across the aisle to prove otherwise?

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There is bipartisan support for a bill to address prescription drug pricing that Trump supports. That’s one example. But instead we get iMpeAchMeNt. 

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2 hours ago, racer254 said:

Really?  A DC outsider was voted in to the top position and you call that voting in chaos?   I call it changing of the guard and it really needed to happen if you look at the reactions by many in DC.

Its exactly who and what I voted for.  First time I am actually getting what I wanted.  Fuck Washington, the whole town needs a giant douche.

1 hour ago, Jimmy Snacks said:

His very existence in DC is based on partisan support from Republicans...where has he reached across the aisle to prove otherwise?

See above

If you listened to his earlier speeches, he most definitely offered his hand in a gesture of bipartisanship.  The Dems pretty much spit on it.  And given the way that they’ve behaved the past 3 years, sorry, its game on now.  And I think he’s going to win it.

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1 hour ago, Jimmy Snacks said:

His very existence in DC is based on partisan support from Republicans...where has he reached across the aisle to prove otherwise?

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For what?  What do you want him to do?  Like I said, there is nothing he has done to prove partisanship.  Dems have been constantly against everything that he proposes, but you blame him for partisanship? 

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Just now, racer254 said:

For what?  What do you want him to do?  Like I said, there is nothing he has done to prove partisanship.  Dems have been constantly against everything that he proposes, but you blame him for partisanship? 

 

20 minutes ago, DriftBusta said:

Its exactly who and what I voted for.  First time I am actually getting what I wanted.  Fuck Washington, the whole town needs a giant douche.

If you listened to his earlier speeches, he most definitely offered his hand in a gesture of bipartisanship.  The Dems pretty much spit on it.  And given the way that they’ve behaved the past 3 years, sorry, its game on now.  And I think he’s going to win it.

Nope you’re right...his endless twitter bullshit and name calling has been very bipartisan.

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6 minutes ago, Jimmy Snacks said:

 

Nope you’re right...his endless twitter bullshit and name calling has been very bipartisan.

LOL.  Twitter name calling?  As compared to what?  Mueller investigations, Impeachment proceedings

Lets take a look at the bipartisanship, 30 investigations by democrats.  Tell us more about how trump is the partisan problem.

Congressional Investigations

In the months since Democrats took control of the House, several committees have opened inquiries that could turn up politically damaging or embarrassing material or lead to impeachment proceedings. Select an investigation to see more.

 
1.
Possible abuse of power by using
foreign policy for political ends
House Foreign Affairs, Intelligence and Oversight Committees
presidency
 
2.
Potential foreign influence over Trump
and possible attempts to obstruct justice
House Intelligence Committee
business
campaign
inauguration
presidency
 
3.
Possible role of Trump and others
in concealing hush money payments
House Oversight and Reform Committee
business
campaign
presidency
 
4.
Possible obstruction of justice and abuse
of power by Trump and his administration
House Judiciary Committee
business
campaign
inauguration
presidency
 
5.
Possible abuses of the White
House security clearance process
House Oversight and Reform Committee
presidency
 
6.
Whether Trump misrepresented his net worth
House Oversight and Reform Committee
business
 
7.
Alleged use of private messaging
by White House officials
House Oversight and Reform Committee
presidency
 
8.
Trump’s tax returns
House Ways and Means Committee
business
 
9.
Trump’s communications with Putin
House Intelligence, Foreign Affairs and Oversight and Reform Committees
presidency
 
10.
Possible money laundering
House Intelligence and Financial Services Committees
business
 
11.
Russian interference in the 2016 election
Senate Intelligence Committee
campaign
 
12.
Proposed U.S. nuclear venture in Saudi Arabia
House Oversight and Reform Committee
presidency

Federal Criminal Investigations

Federal prosecutors are pursuing more than a dozen criminal investigations that grew out of the work of Robert S. Mueller III, the special counsel. These are the ones we know about.

 
13.
Trump inaugural committee
donations and spending
Southern District of New York
inauguration
 
14.
Trump inaugural committee donations /
committee chairman’s ties to Middle East
Eastern District of New York
associate
inauguration
 
15.
Business and political dealings of top fund-raiser
for Trump’s campaign and inauguration
Justice Department’s public integrity section
associate
campaign
inauguration
presidency
 
16.
Possible role of Trump and others
in concealing hush money payments
Southern District of New York
business
campaign
presidency
 
17.
Whether Trump’s lawyers offered
presidential pardon to Cohen
Southern District of New York
presidency
 
18.
Allegations of inflated insurance claims
Southern District of New York
business
 
19.
Pending prosecution of Roger J. Stone Jr.
United States Attorney’s Office for the District of Columbia
campaign
 
20.
Possible lobbying violations by firms recruited
by former Trump campaign chairman
Southern District of New York
 
21.
Pending prosecution of former Manafort associate
United States Attorney’s Office for the District of Columbia
 
22.
Bank officer who sought Trump administration job
Southern District of New York

State and Local Investigations

Authorities in New York, New Jersey and Washington, D.C., are also examining Mr. Trump, his businesses and associates through various — mostly civil — investigations.

 
23.
Trump Organization insurance practices
New York Department of Financial Services
business
 
24.
Contributions to Trump inaugural committee
New Jersey attorney general
inauguration
 
25.
Role of Trump’s children and
businesses in Trump’s inauguration
District of Columbia attorney general
business
inauguration
 
26.
Pending criminal prosecution of Manafort
on state mortgage fraud charges
Manhattan district attorney
associate
 
27.
Allegations of misused charitable
assets, self-dealing and campaign finance
violations by the Trump Foundation
New York attorney general
business
campaign
 
28.
Allegations that the Trump
Organization inflated financial assets
New York attorney general
business
 
29.
Trump family’s tax schemes
New York attorney general
business
 
30.
Whether Trump and his family underpaid taxes
New York City
business
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