spin_dry Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 Slime https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/videos/us/2019/08/11/acting-border-patrol-chief-mark-morgan-intv-ice-raids-targeting-illegal-immigrants-no-employers-sot-sotu-vpx.cnn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Crappie Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 Good question. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Jimmy Snacks Posted August 13, 2019 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted August 13, 2019 What a crock of shit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NaturallyAspirated Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 Good question... Neal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mainecat Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 Why not Trumps businesses? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold Member Stephen Hawking Posted August 13, 2019 Gold Member Share Posted August 13, 2019 16 minutes ago, Mainecat said: Why not Trumps businesses? Patience Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Momorider Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 They were are being charged like Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racer254 Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 (edited) Ok, so you all want the employers to get fined or get some type of punishment for hiring illegals. What do you really thing the outcome of that will be? I bet it won't be what you think. Instead, there will start to be a bias against hiring people that fit a stereotype. Edited August 13, 2019 by racer254 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mainecat Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 3 minutes ago, racer254 said: Ok, so you all want the employers to get fined or get some type of punishment for hiring illegals. What do you really thing the outcome of that will be? I bet it won't be what you think. Instead, there will start to be a bias against hiring people that fit a stereotype. Knowingly hiring illegals is 6 months in jail. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member steve from amherst Posted August 13, 2019 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted August 13, 2019 Just now, Mainecat said: Knowingly hiring illegals is 6 months in jail. Too bad it's not enforced. If it was we would have an illegal problem. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racer254 Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 Just now, Mainecat said: Knowingly hiring illegals is 6 months in jail. What makes you think they know they are hiring illegals? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mainecat Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 1 minute ago, racer254 said: What makes you think they know they are hiring illegals? Ahhh there were over 300 illegals working at the plant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angry ginger Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 There is no need for charges now. Company should have scanned a copy of all the employees docs when they hired them and ran e verify. If they were provided docs and ran e verify there is no legit charges. If they knowingly accepted falsified docs or did not run e verify they should be charged but knowingly will be real hard to prove. I have no doubt at some point MC given where and what his company was doing that he had illegals work there. Theres plenty of providers of documents to beat e verify in the haverhill/lawrence area. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racer254 Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 1 minute ago, Mainecat said: Ahhh there were over 300 illegals working at the plant. Did the us government know they were illegal or do you think they all checked out when they did background checks? How about their SS numbers? FFS you can't be this naive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racer254 Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 Just now, Angry ginger said: There is no need for charges now. Company should have scanned a copy of all the employees docs when they hired them and ran e verify. If they were provided docs and ran e verify there is no legit charges. If they knowingly accepted falsified docs or did not run e verify they should be charged but knowingly will be real hard to prove. I have no doubt at some point MC given where and what his company was doing that he had illegals work there. Theres plenty of providers of documents to beat e verify in the haverhill/lawrence area. Exactly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member steve from amherst Posted August 13, 2019 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted August 13, 2019 south salem Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spin_dry Posted August 13, 2019 Author Share Posted August 13, 2019 how does the government know there are hired illegals at a company, but the owner of the company doesn’t? Sorry, not buying the owner innocence idea. It’s just another bullshit attitude and belief that protects the business owner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racer254 Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 6 minutes ago, spin_dry said: how does the government know there are hired illegals at a company, but the owner of the company doesn’t? Sorry, not buying the owner innocence idea. It’s just another bullshit attitude and belief that protects the business owner. If the business owner goes through all the checks and everyone passes, what else should they do? I will ask this again. So you all want the employers to get fined or get some type of punishment for hiring illegals. What do you really thing the outcome of that will be? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anler Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 Hahaha! Racer making excuses for the business owners enabling illegals and condemning the illegals. Dont think for a minute that these places dont know they have employees with sketchy citizenship. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angry ginger Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 2 minutes ago, Anler said: Hahaha! Racer making excuses for the business owners enabling illegals and condemning the illegals. Dont think for a minute that these places dont know they have employees with sketchy citizenship. as long as the correct docs were provided they really have to watch themselves when it comes to questioning them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hayward Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 3 minutes ago, Anler said: Hahaha! Racer making excuses for the business owners enabling illegals and condemning the illegals. Dont think for a minute that these places dont know they have employees with sketchy citizenship. They're sketchy right from the get-go if they have the "proper paperwork" or not. Ginger just explained up above that the legit paperwork can even be fudged. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spin_dry Posted August 13, 2019 Author Share Posted August 13, 2019 Just now, Anler said: Hahaha! Racer making excuses for the business owners enabling illegals and condemning the illegals. Dont think for a minute that these places dont know they have employees with sketchy citizenship. Racer certainly is predictable. There was a production bakery here in the city that hired nothing but illegals for years. It was no secret what was going on. It’s a typical scenario that plays out over and over. There’s always going to be the few illegal employees that slip through the cracks in an honest business. But these employers like I just mentioned are fully aware of what’s going on. One or two illegal employees is one thing. But the mass scale of hiring illegal employees is really what this article is about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted August 13, 2019 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted August 13, 2019 9 hours ago, Jimmy Snacks said: What a crock of shit. Agreed. Hopefully they are forthcoming. Doubt it but let's hope. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hayward Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 13 minutes ago, spin_dry said: how does the government know there are hired illegals at a company, but the owner of the company doesn’t? Sorry, not buying the owner innocence idea. It’s just another bullshit attitude and belief that protects the business owner. 300 undocumented illegals is a lot. No way a business owner could think they could get away with that. But, 300 "documented" workers, and just 1 or 2 comes in contact in one way or the other, draws attention to themselves and is found to be really "undocumented", well there's your answer. The raid will come, and they'll go over everyone's status with a fine tooth comb. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angry ginger Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 Government really should be on top of this, if there are 4 jose smiths with the same SS# working in different places the tax system should identify that person for questioning. Sure he could be working a couple PT jobs but check on it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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