Edmo Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 10 hours ago, motonoggin said: That's actually a better description of capitalism than anything else. So the adult version of a trophy for everyone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J. Jackson Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 10 hours ago, motonoggin said: That's actually a better description of capitalism than anything else. Are you really that dumb? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DriftBusta Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irv Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 18 minutes ago, DriftBusta said: That easily can be said about Trudeau and the liberals as well. No difference up here, sadly. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motonoggin Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 1 hour ago, J. Jackson said: Are you really that dumb? Worker produces $10 worth of value with their labor, capitalist takes $7 for himself and leaves $3 for the worker who actually produced something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcticCrusher Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 2 minutes ago, motonoggin said: Worker produces $10 worth of value with their labor, capitalist takes $7 for himself and leaves $3 for the worker who actually produced something. Capitalist says fuck this, goes elsewhere with his investment. Worker produces nothing and makes nothing, capitalist still produces the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motonoggin Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 (edited) 5 minutes ago, ArcticCrusher said: Capitalist says fuck this, goes elsewhere with his investment. Worker produces nothing and makes nothing, capitalist still produces the same. Lmao. Yeah, capitalists actually don't produce anything anywhere, they just steal the surplus value of labor. Capitalist destroys the very market he is trying to exploit, gets hung by his balls by the workers, who take over his factory and keep the value they created for themselves. Edited September 23, 2019 by motonoggin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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ArcticCrusher Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 1 minute ago, motonoggin said: Lmao. Capitalist destroys the very market he is trying to exploit, gets hung by his balls by the workers, who take over his factory and keep the value they created for themselves. Why do the workers need the capitalist in the first place? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motonoggin Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 1 minute ago, ArcticCrusher said: Why do the workers need the capitalist in the first place? Excellent question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcticCrusher Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 1 minute ago, motonoggin said: Excellent question. The answer isn't too hard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motonoggin Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 2 minutes ago, ArcticCrusher said: The answer isn't too hard. The answer is "they don't". Lmao. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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ArcticCrusher Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 20 minutes ago, motonoggin said: The answer is "they don't". Lmao. What's stopping them now? No ideas, no incentive, no money? No clue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motonoggin Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 6 minutes ago, ArcticCrusher said: What's stopping them now? No ideas, no incentive, no money? No clue. Universal penetration of the social construct of money. Labor produces all. What capitalists refer to as 'capital' was produced (and stolen from) labor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SmeeAgain Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 24 minutes ago, motonoggin said: Universal penetration of the social construct of money. Labor produces all. What capitalists refer to as 'capital' was produced (and stolen from) labor. Ridiculous. The laborers were already compensated for their labor. 34 minutes ago, ArcticCrusher said: What's stopping them now? No ideas, no incentive, no money? No clue. Yep. Labor is cheap because it's something any human can contribute. The creative idea of it and the ability to execute it is what's worth the money. As Judge Smails put it: The world needs ditch diggers too! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcticCrusher Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 31 minutes ago, motonoggin said: Universal penetration of the social construct of money. Labor produces all. What capitalists refer to as 'capital' was produced (and stolen from) labor. You really have no clue how most businesses are started. Stick to your grow-op. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motonoggin Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 6 minutes ago, ArcticCrusher said: You really have no clue how most businesses are started. Stick to your grow-op. Yeah I'll stick to my $15 million dollar grow up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinker Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 Without Capital there is Nothing Can we get back to funny now ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motonoggin Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 1 minute ago, Tinker said: Without Capital there is Nothing Can we get back to funny now ? Capital is just a social construct. All value is created by labor or nature. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SmeeAgain Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 1 minute ago, motonoggin said: Capital is just a social construct. All value is created by labor or nature. Value is also a social construct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcticCrusher Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 3 minutes ago, SmeeAgain said: Value is also a social construct. So is wealth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcticCrusher Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 16 minutes ago, motonoggin said: Yeah I'll stick to my $15 million dollar grow up. What portion is yours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motonoggin Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 4 minutes ago, SmeeAgain said: Value is also a social construct. Lol, no it isn't. Not when it comes to essentials of life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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