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32 minutes ago, Zambroski said:

It’s all falling down around you, eh?  Now, blame, hate and lie.  That’s what liberals do the best!  You are all good at something at least.

All falling down around me?:lol2:

 

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53 minutes ago, revkevsdi said:

Weird that you alternate between claims like this and claims that Obama was the most polarizing President.  

Could it be that you are full of shit. 

That’s easy, you are full of shit.  

The right were claiming no President was ever subjected to an investigation like Trump was.   Yet you bring up Starr.  

You must be a special kind of fucktard to think that what they found on Bill Clinton is more serious than what Trump was guilty of. 

I agree with most of that.  Except the part about them getting the point.  They are way beyond logical conclusions. 

So let's recap because reading your post it seems like you missed a few things. 2+ years of unlimited investigation of Trump and SP Mueller hands down ZERO indictments on Trump. 2+ years of Bill Clinton investigations get 11 indictments and Bill gets disbarred and is no longer allowed to practice law.

Your world has imaginary crimes that Trump is not charged with.

My reality is the facts as they are presented.

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Just now, Carlos Danger said:

So let's recap because reading your post it seems like you missed a few things. 2+ years of unlimited investigation of Trump and SP Mueller hands down ZERO indictments on Trump. 2+ years of Bill Clinton investigations get 11 indictments and Bill gets disbarred and is no longer allowed to practice law.

Your world has imaginary crimes that Trump is not charged with.

My reality is the facts as they are presented.

true  story 

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3 minutes ago, Carlos Danger said:

So let's recap because reading your post it seems like you missed a few things. 2+ years of unlimited investigation of Trump and SP Mueller hands down ZERO indictments on Trump. 2+ years of Bill Clinton investigations get 11 indictments and Bill gets disbarred and is no longer allowed to practice law.

Your world has imaginary crimes that Trump is not charged with.

My reality is the facts as they are presented.

What was Clinton found guilty of?

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A federal judge yesterday fined Bill Clinton over $90,000 (£57,000) for denying under oath that he had had sex with Monica Lewinsky, in an unprecedented penalty imposed on an incumbent US president.

The fine was ordered by Judge Susan Webber Wright, three months after she found him guilty of contempt for giving false testimony in a sexual harassment case brought against him by a former Arkansas government employee, Paula Jones.

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9 minutes ago, Carlos Danger said:

So let's recap because reading your post it seems like you missed a few things. 2+ years of unlimited investigation of Trump and SP Mueller hands down ZERO indictments on Trump. 2+ years of Bill Clinton investigations get 11 indictments and Bill gets disbarred and is no longer allowed to practice law.

Your world has imaginary crimes that Trump is not charged with.

My reality is the facts as they are presented.

2+ years for the Clinton investigation. :lol2:

The investigation starts with whitewater and gets sidetracked to a bj from a consenting adult. Of course Bill was a sleaze ball that attacked women  

Trump meanwhile admits to sexually assaulting women as well. His own wife accused him of raping her. 

So obviously Republicans don’t care about That. 

“But but Bill lied”.  

Yeah like you fuckers care about that.  

If Trumps lawyers hadn’t been smart enough to keep lying Donald off the stand, he’d been finished. 

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4 minutes ago, Snake said:

A federal judge yesterday fined Bill Clinton over $90,000 (£57,000) for denying under oath that he had had sex with Monica Lewinsky, in an unprecedented penalty imposed on an incumbent US president.

The fine was ordered by Judge Susan Webber Wright, three months after she found him guilty of contempt for giving false testimony in a sexual harassment case brought against him by a former Arkansas government employee, Paula Jones.

Good boy. Trump stood on airforce one and lied about sex with a porn star and knowing about election finance fraud. 

Put your orange god on the stand, see if he tells the truth about anything. 

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5 minutes ago, revkevsdi said:

What was Clinton found guilty of?

Well let's see Congress only considered 4 of the 11 counts as they went to Obstruction of Justice and purjury while in office. Witness tampering is what you or I would have been charged with especially for his dealings with Linda Tripp and Vernon Jordan. And I would add that none of the charges include sexual harassment or rape which again you or I would have been charged with.

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5 minutes ago, revkevsdi said:

Good boy. Trump stood on airforce one and lied about sex with a porn star and knowing about election finance fraud. 

Put your orange god on the stand, see if he tells the truth about anything. 

Again show me the indictments on Trump......I will wait....

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11 minutes ago, revkevsdi said:

Good boy. Trump stood on airforce one and lied about sex with a porn star and knowing about election finance fraud. 

Put your orange god on the stand, see if he tells the truth about anything. 

Lying under oath. From a President. And we were to expect him to follow the Constitution from there.... yep.

Clinton invoked executive privilege 14 times.

 

Trump?

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2 minutes ago, Carlos Danger said:

Again show me the indictments on Trump......I will wait....

You claimed Obama was corrupt. Where are his indictments?

more false equivalency from you. Sad. 

Do you really think what Trump did doesn’t fit the description of obstruction of justice?

Do you think because people refused to follow his orders that he is innocent?

Thats some high level stupid. 

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1 minute ago, revkevsdi said:

You claimed Obama was corrupt. Where are his indictments?

more false equivalency from you. Sad. 

Do you really think what Trump did doesn’t fit the description of obstruction of justice?

Do you think because people refused to follow his orders that he is innocent?

Thats some high level stupid. 

Remember when Holder was cited for contempt of congress?

That was awesome.

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19 minutes ago, revkevsdi said:

2+ years for the Clinton investigation. :lol2:

The investigation starts with whitewater and gets sidetracked to a bj from a consenting adult. Of course Bill was a sleaze ball that attacked women  

Trump meanwhile admits to sexually assaulting women as well. His own wife accused him of raping her. 

So obviously Republicans don’t care about That. 

“But but Bill lied”.  

Yeah like you fuckers care about that.  

If Trumps lawyers hadn’t been smart enough to keep lying Donald off the stand, he’d been finished. 

Hey fuckstain, Clinton's perjury trial also cost taxpayers 70 million. :bigfinger:

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2 minutes ago, revkevsdi said:

You claimed Obama was corrupt. Where are his indictments?

more false equivalency from you. Sad. 

Do you really think what Trump did doesn’t fit the description of obstruction of justice?

Do you think because people refused to follow his orders that he is innocent?

Thats some high level stupid. 

Well under the law it turns there is some discussion of what the definitions of obstruction of Justice is as it relates to executive powers. Trump could have fired Comey, Rosenstein and Mueller for any reason or no reason at all.

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9 minutes ago, revkevsdi said:

 

Do you think because people refused to follow his orders that he is innocent?

 

Do you think because Holder refused to follow orders that he is innocent?

Is refusing orders ok now?

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16 minutes ago, revkevsdi said:

Was holder President?

 

Rudy was on with Chuck Todd, that nancy boy partisan masquerading as a journalist, the smarmy little shit bag with the faggot haircut, this morning on “Meet the Press”, and pretty much laid out what the next several months will bring.  Enjoy.  Now the investigators are going to get investigated, and he wants to know how they did all this before an election without Obamas knowledge and approval.  Cant wait!

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7 minutes ago, DriftBusta said:

Rudy was on with Chuck Todd, that nancy boy partisan masquerading as a journalist, the smarmy little shit bag with the faggot haircut, this morning on “Meet the Press”, and pretty much laid out what the next several months will bring.  Enjoy.  Now the investigators are going to get investigated, and he wants to know how they did all this before an election without Obamas knowledge and approval.  Cant wait!

I like how they pretend that Louis learner from the IRS came up with the plan to use her office to hurt Obama's political enemies all on her own.

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Obama’s Campaign Paid $972,000 To Law Firm That Secretly Paid Fusion GPS In 2016
 

Obama’s Campaign Paid $972,000 To Law Firm That Secretly Paid Fusion GPS In 2016

Since April of 2016, Obama's campaign organization has paid nearly a million dollars to the law firm that funneled money to Fusion GPS to compile a dossier of unverified allegations against Donald Trump.
 By Sean Davis

Former president Barack Obama’s official campaign organization has directed nearly a million dollars to the same law firm that funneled money to Fusion GPS, the firm behind the infamous Steele dossier. Since April of 2016, Obama For America (OFA) has paid over $972,000 to Perkins Coie, records filed with the Federal Election Commission (FEC) show.

The Washington Post reported last week that Perkins Coie, an international law firm, was directed by both the Democratic National Committee (DNC) and Hillary Clinton’s campaign to retain Fusion GPS in April of 2016 to dig up dirt on then-candidate Donald Trump. Fusion GPS then hired Christopher Steele, a former British spy, to compile a dossier of allegations that Trump and his campaign actively colluded with the Russian government during the 2016 election. Though many of the claims in the dossier have been directly refuted, none of the dossier’s allegations of collusion have been independently verified. Lawyers for Steele admitted in court filings last April that his work was not verified and was never meant to be made public.

 

OFA, Obama’s official campaign arm in 2016, paid nearly $800,000 to Perkins Coie in 2016 alone, according to FEC records. The first 2016 payments to Perkins Coie, classified only as “Legal Services,” were made April 25-26, 2016, and totaled $98,047. A second batch of payments, also classified as “Legal Services,” were disbursed to the law firm on September 29, 2016, and totaled exactly $700,000. Payments from OFA to Perkins Coie in 2017 totaled $174,725 through August 22, 2017.

FEC records as well as federal court records show that Marc Elias, the Perkins Coie lawyer whom the Washington Post reported was responsible for the payments to Fusion GPS on behalf of Clinton’s campaign and the DNC, also previously served as a counsel for OFA. In Shamblin v. Obama for America, a 2013 case in federal court in Florida, federal court records list Elias as simultaneously serving as lead attorney for both OFA and the DNC.

OFA, which managed Obama’s successful re-election campaign in 2012, retooled after that campaign to focus on enacting the president’s agenda during his final term in office. The group reorganized again after the 2016 election and planned to use its staff and resources to oppose President Donald Trump. During the entire 2016 campaign cycle, the group spent only $4.5 million, according to FEC records.

Federal records show that Hillary Clinton’s official campaign organization, Hillary For America, paid just under $5.1 million to Perkins Coie in 2016. The DNC paid nearly $5.4 million to the law firm in 2016.

The timing and nature of the payments to Perkins Coie by Obama’s official campaign arm raise significant questions about whether OFA was funding Fusion GPS, how much Obama and his team knew about the contents and provenance of the dossier long before its contents were made public, and whether the president or his government lieutenants knowingly used a partisan political document to justify official government actions targeting the president’s political opponents named in the dossier. According to the Washington Post, Fusion GPS was first retained by Perkins Coie on behalf of the Democratic National Committee (DNC) and Hillary Clinton’s presidential campaign in April of 2016.

At the same time that Hillary’s campaign, Obama’s campaign organization, and the DNC were simultaneously paying Perkins Coie, the spouse of one of Fusion GPS’s key employees was working directly for Obama in the West Wing. Shailagh Murray, a former Washington Post reporter-turned-political operative, was serving as a top communications adviser to Obama while the Obama administration was reportedly using information from the dossier to justify secret surveillance of Trump campaign staff. Murray is married to Neil King, a former Wall Street Journal reporter who was hired by Fusion GPS in December of 2016. While at the Wall Street Journal, Kingworked alongside Fusion GPS’s core team, even sharing bylines with Glenn Simpson, the Fusion GPS executive who personally hired Steele to probe Trump’s alleged Russia connections.

The importance of the dossier funded by Democrats, commissioned by Fusion GPS, and compiled by Steele, is difficult to overstate given that its contents were reportedly briefed to both President Obama and then-President-Elect Trump. The dossier was eventually published in full by BuzzFeed on January 10. On January 6, then-FBI Director James Comey had briefed Trump on the allegations in Steele’s dossier. Steele admitted in court filings that he had shopped much of the information in his dossier to numerous media outlets beginning in September of 2016.

Fusion GPS, which has been accused of illegally operating as an undisclosed agent of foreign governments, is currently facing multiple congressional inquiries into its activities and its clients. Bill Browder, whose attorney was allegedly murdered by Russian authorities after publicizing explosive allegations of Russian fraud and money laundering, alleged in congressional testimony last July that Fusion GPS was paid by Russians to undermine U.S. sanctions against the country. Late last week, Fusion GPS reportedly struck a deal with U.S. House investigators regarding a federal subpoena of the firm’s bank records. And in September, Sen. Chuck Grassley (R-Iowa), who serves as chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee, reportedly requested that the U.S. Treasury Department’s financial crimes unit provide his committee with all suspicious activity reports related to Fusion GPS’s bank transactions.

Following reports of Perkins Coie’s role in funneling money to Fusion GPS, the Campaign Legal Center, a non-partisan campaign finance watchdog, filed a complaint with the FEC alleging that the secret funding schemes violated federal campaign disclosure laws.

Fusion GPS is also facing a separate defamation suit in federal court related to claims in the dossier. That case, which was brought by three Russian businessmen who claim to have been libeled in the Steele dossier, was filed in federal court in Washington, D.C., in early October. Fusion GPS is yet to respond to those allegations in court.

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1 hour ago, snoughnut said:

Hey fuckstain, Clinton's perjury trial also cost taxpayers 70 million. :bigfinger:

Somebody pointed out that the Mueller Investigation might actually turn a profit....no collusion at no cost...win/win!!!!!!!!!  :lol:

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1 hour ago, revkevsdi said:

Good boy. Trump stood on airforce one and lied about sex with a porn star and knowing about election finance fraud. 

Put your orange god on the stand, see if he tells the truth about anything. 

was he in court under testifying? 

now you first need to charge him with a crime before you can get him to the stand .

see any diff yet ? 

of course you don't 

 

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