Snoslinger Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 One other thing, imagine how batshit crazy trump and trumpsters would be if he actually reversed the bad trends and made the big climbs? Rather than hopping on the tail end and trying to take all the credit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ford_428cj Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 Just now, Snoslinger said: The emphasis is on the change, not how good or bad it is. IMO, the middle class is not much better off now than they have been. The trumpsters get all excited over little shit, like the wages rising .1% !!! Well Woo hoo!!! Is about the same imo as the last 8 years or so. Pretty solid for the most part. Inflation has went up way faster than wages tho imo. You said above 3-5% pay raises btw. I know of 2 tool & die shops sending stuff to China in the last year or so. Workers there on 32 hrs etc. Word is - they will pull work back if tariffs come into play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snoslinger Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 2 minutes ago, ford_428cj said: Is about the same imo as the last 8 years or so. Pretty solid for the most part. Inflation has went up way faster than wages tho imo. You said above 3-5% pay raises btw. I know of 2 tool & die shops sending stuff to China in the last year or so. Workers there on 32 hrs etc. Word is - they will pull work back if tariffs come into play. I agree, things are about the same Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member ViperGTS/Z1 Posted April 12, 2019 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted April 12, 2019 48 minutes ago, f7ben said: This economy even at the end is 1000x better than anything Obama did We have a growing manufacturing sector. Real jobs....not baristas Can't even compare manufacturing growth to Obama.....Trump has also reversed the government /manufacturing job growth ratio big time. https://www.forbes.com/sites/chuckdevore/2019/04/05/trumps-economy-keeps-humming-manufacturing-adding-more-jobs-than-government-reversing-obama-trend/#29397a9c1eb7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member steve from amherst Posted April 12, 2019 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted April 12, 2019 26 minutes ago, Snoslinger said: The emphasis is on the change, not how good or bad it is. IMO, the middle class is not much better off now than they have been. The trumpsters get all excited over little shit, like the wages rising .1% !!! Well Woo hoo!!! And 1/2 those people were doing the same during the recession. Lets face it, if one didn't lose their job during the recession nit was pretty painless. The average American as you prefer to call them , just floats along. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Jimmy Snacks Posted April 12, 2019 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted April 12, 2019 50 minutes ago, ford_428cj said: Talking fruit pickers vs normal jobs. You are a blockhead. I give up...you are 100% feeb. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Jimmy Snacks Posted April 12, 2019 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted April 12, 2019 (edited) Read and try to understand Fordy...it's a big ask I know. Record low unemployment and worker shortages. Documented and Undocumented make up 16.9 % of the workforce. https://www.marketplace.org/2018/04/05/economy/what-role-immigrants-labor-force Edited April 12, 2019 by Jimmy Snacks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Jimmy Snacks Posted April 12, 2019 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted April 12, 2019 https://www.nytimes.com/2018/12/11/us/undocumented-immigrant-workers.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ford_428cj Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 16 minutes ago, Jimmy Snacks said: Read and try to understand Fordy...it's a big ask I know. Record low unemployment and worker shortages. Documented and Undocumented make up 16.9 % of the workforce. https://www.marketplace.org/2018/04/05/economy/what-role-immigrants-labor-force More than 50 percent of all immigrant households receive welfare benefits, compared to only 30 percent of native households in the United States that receive welfare benefits,” the release states. but but but ...we need more! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mileage Psycho Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 3 hours ago, Snake said: Filings for U.S. unemployment benefits unexpectedly dropped, falling to the lowest level since October 1969 and suggesting little sign of cooling in a tight labor market. Jobless claims decreased to 196,000 in the week ended April 6, Labor Department figures showed Thursday. The level fell below all estimates in Bloomberg’s survey of economists, which had called for an increase. The four-week average, a less-volatile measure, declined to 207,000, the lowest since December 1969. https://www.bloomberg.com/markets/fixed-income 3 hours ago, Edmo said: Doesn’t look like the dems are going to get the recession they so desperately want right now. It’s coming, but not this year. 2 hours ago, Anler said: Unemployment has bottomed. It can only go up from here. If there are major spending cuts you will see your recession. This is good news, we have gone from 4.7% unemployment in November 2016 to 3.8% in March 2019; now the question becomes how do you grow the economy without growing the population? https://www.bls.gov/charts/employment-situation/civilian-unemployment-rate.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmo Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 6 hours ago, Mileage Psycho said: This is good news, we have gone from 4.7% unemployment in November 2016 to 3.8% in March 2019; now the question becomes how do you grow the economy without growing the population? https://www.bls.gov/charts/employment-situation/civilian-unemployment-rate.htm I don’t think most have a problem with immigration. It’s the staggering number of folks flowing over the border undocumented that is the concern IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted April 12, 2019 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted April 12, 2019 (edited) 9 hours ago, Snoslinger said: Tell me what is so much better with trump. Around here everyone is on the same path they have been. 3 to 5% pay raises, same bonuses (some even less), a little savings in taxes for some. Home valued are about the same, the market is about the same, trucks are super expensive, cars about the same. So please, what’s happened in your neck of the woods to make things so grand. And spare the “well the wife got a bonus for the first time ever “ line of crap Jesus dude what exactly are your expectations? Sprinkles and fairy dust? Edited April 12, 2019 by Highmark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snoslinger Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 Just now, Highmark said: Jesus dude just exactly what are your expectations? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snoslinger Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 (edited) I’ve been telling certain clowns that giving huge tax breaks to the wealthy and corporations won’t do shit for the average American worker. The savings would go into stock buy backs, the ceos, offshore accounts, yachts, the country club sponsorships, and all the other perks. So here we are, and clown #1 asks what did i expect Edited April 12, 2019 by Snoslinger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snake Posted April 12, 2019 Author Share Posted April 12, 2019 10 hours ago, Snoslinger said: I’m referring to the average workers, not business owners. Besides, you were busy prior to trump. Last year at this time our center was running 45 routes and drivers. A year later we have 53 drivers and routes. That is almost a 10% increase, and it takes the individual from about $20k a year as a part timer to upwards of $100k. Never even seen anything like this in 30 years. 9 hours ago, Snoslinger said: The emphasis is on the change, not how good or bad it is. IMO, the middle class is not much better off now than they have been. The trumpsters get all excited over little shit, like the wages rising .1% !!! Well Woo hoo!!! God you would bitch about saying thank you for a blow job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted April 12, 2019 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted April 12, 2019 3 minutes ago, Snake said: Last year at this time our center was running 45 routes and drivers. A year later we have 53 drivers and routes. That is almost a 10% increase, and it takes the individual from about $20k a year as a part timer to upwards of $100k. Never even seen anything like this in 30 years. God you would bitch about saying thank you for a blow job. Business is up 20% since the election. 2019 is looking to be up another 20%+ with 2 more large projects kicking off. People laugh when they say the election meant nothing yet many charts show completely different facts. Orders and forecasts went up almost immediately. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member ViperGTS/Z1 Posted April 12, 2019 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted April 12, 2019 Its quite evident, no matter how strong the economy gets,the Slinger types won't be happy til they get the free stuff that AOC/Sanders have promised and only have to work if they are willing. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snoslinger Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 1 hour ago, Snake said: Last year at this time our center was running 45 routes and drivers. A year later we have 53 drivers and routes. That is almost a 10% increase, and it takes the individual from about $20k a year as a part timer to upwards of $100k. Never even seen anything like this in 30 years. God you would bitch about saying thank you for a blow job. um, ya think internet sales growth has anything to do with that? as more and more people are doing it, to save some bucks because of crap wages? oh, and you're union. something rwws are suppose to despise. is there anything you're not a major hack about? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snoslinger Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 12 minutes ago, ViperGTS/Z1 said: Its quite evident, no matter how strong the economy gets,the Slinger types won't be happy til they get the free stuff that AOC/Sanders have promised and only have to work if they are willing. you are missing the point. the economy is on the same path it was. only before trump, you thought it sucked and on jan 22, 2017, that all changed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ford_428cj Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 9 hours ago, ford_428cj said: Quote More than 50 percent of all immigrant households receive welfare benefits, compared to only 30 percent of native households in the United States that receive welfare benefits,” the release states. but but but ...we need more! And like expected - Snacks ignores this little gem ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racer254 Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 2 hours ago, Highmark said: Jesus dude what exactly are your expectations? Sprinkles and fairy dust? He expected Doom and Gloom that the DNC promised, but it didn't happen. Just like collusion, a hillary win, and the other bullshit that the dnc is peddling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snoslinger Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 this is it, in a nutshell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zambroski Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 Just now, Snoslinger said: this is it, in a nutshell I don't know what you think you were arguing with this graph but, if I were you, based on you usual arguments, I wouldn't have pasted it here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snoslinger Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 5 minutes ago, Zambroski said: I don't know what you think you were arguing with this graph but, if I were you, based on you usual arguments, I wouldn't have pasted it here. you either can't grasp what it's reflecting, or you got a little excited over a little bump near the end... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zambroski Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 Just now, Snoslinger said: you either can't grasp what it's reflecting, or you got a little excited over a little bump near the end... What do you think your point was hiding in that graph? What is your point? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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