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Mueller could not prove that members of the trump admin knowingly colluded, in the legal sense of the word, with russian government, in the legal sense of the word. So ogliarchs, lawyers, etc are technically not the russian gov. This is why putin used them to do the dirty work. Also why nothing illegal about the trump tower meeting. 

Trump was not sure about the ability to get away with all this, so his actions could be viewed as obstruction. That is why mueller did not exonerate him on the obstruction charge, regardless of how many times trunp will say it. 

Summary - russia did meddle in the election, the trump admin did help with it. It appears it did not meet the illegal criteria however.

this is akin to the ok Simpson trial. Anyone with a clue knew he did it, but it couldn’t be proven, legally  

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2 hours ago, Snoslinger said:

Mueller could not prove that members of the trump admin knowingly colluded, in the legal sense of the word, with russian government, in the legal sense of the word. So ogliarchs, lawyers, etc are technically not the russian gov. This is why putin used them to do the dirty work. Also why nothing illegal about the trump tower meeting. 

Trump was not sure about the ability to get away with all this, so his actions could be viewed as obstruction. That is why mueller did not exonerate him on the obstruction charge, regardless of how many times trunp will say it. 

Summary - russia did meddle in the election, the trump admin did help with it. It appears it did not meet the illegal criteria however.

this is akin to the ok Simpson trial. Anyone with a clue knew he did it, but it couldn’t be proven, legally  

Holy fuck.   "But don't give me a hard time guys......please."

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He makes excuses for Mueller like Barbara Streisand does for Michael Jackson:

“You can say ‘molested’, but those children, as you heard, say they were thrilled to be there. They [are] both married and they both have children, so it didn’t kill them,” Barbara Streisand

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32 minutes ago, Snoslinger said:

Mueller could not prove that members of the trump admin knowingly colluded, in the legal sense of the word, with russian government, in the legal sense of the word. So ogliarchs, lawyers, etc are technically not the russian gov. This is why putin used them to do the dirty work. Also why nothing illegal about the trump tower meeting. 

Trump was not sure about the ability to get away with all this, so his actions could be viewed as obstruction. That is why mueller did not exonerate him on the obstruction charge, regardless of how many times trunp will say it. 

Summary - russia did meddle in the election, the trump admin did help with it. It appears it did not meet the illegal criteria however.

this is akin to the ok Simpson trial. Anyone with a clue knew he did it, but it couldn’t be proven, legally  

If that is true, why are the right celebrating. 

This sounds more like getting away with it. 

If getting away with it or Mueller deciding that they aren’t likely to get a conviction is the reason, why did the Trumpster keep talking about Hillary’s emails?

 

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1 minute ago, revkevsdi said:

If that is true, why are the right celebrating. 

This sounds more like getting away with it. 

If getting away with it or Mueller deciding that they aren’t likely to get a conviction is the reason, why did the Trumpster keep talking about Hillary’s emails?

 

CNN/MSNBC SAID SO!!!!!!

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14 minutes ago, revkevsdi said:

If that is true, why are the right celebrating. 

This sounds more like getting away with it. 

If getting away with it or Mueller deciding that they aren’t likely to get a conviction is the reason, why did the Trumpster keep talking about Hillary’s emails?

 

Give me the definition of "No Evidence."    :pc:

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11 minutes ago, Mainecat said:

Barr is Trumps fixer.......like he was for Iran Contra.

collusion is the least of his worries.

This is a classic case of doubling down on the stupid. If you had any self respect you’d admit you were wrong and move on. Idiot.

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2 minutes ago, Edmo said:

This is a classic case of doubling down on the stupid. If you had any self respect you’d admit you were wrong and move on. Idiot.

Right now Vegas odds are Trump will win over Sanders by 2-1.

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57 minutes ago, Snoslinger said:

Mueller could not prove that members of the trump admin knowingly colluded, in the legal sense of the word, with russian government, in the legal sense of the word. So ogliarchs, lawyers, etc are technically not the russian gov. This is why putin used them to do the dirty work. Also why nothing illegal about the trump tower meeting. 

Trump was not sure about the ability to get away with all this, so his actions could be viewed as obstruction. That is why mueller did not exonerate him on the obstruction charge, regardless of how many times trunp will say it. 

Summary - russia did meddle in the election, the trump admin did help with it. It appears it did not meet the illegal criteria however.

this is akin to the ok Simpson trial. Anyone with a clue knew he did it, but it couldn’t be proven, legally  

Honest question.   What are you basing this on?   CNN, MSNBC or your own knowledge of the case?  :lmao:

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3 minutes ago, Highmark said:

Give me the definition of "No Evidence."    :pc:

I would say no evidence is exactly that. No Trump tower meetings, no evidence of Jared (A guy that wasn't qualified for a security clearance) setting up back channel communications with the Kremlin. No secret plans to build in Moscow that were still ongoing during the election.  No meetings between Trump and Russian agents in the White house.  No one hour secret meetings between Trump and Putin where Trump looked like a whipped dog after.

But that all happened and people that formerly lost their shit when Obama told the Russians he would have more flexibility after the election, are cheering that Trump got away with it. 

 

 

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1 hour ago, Snoslinger said:

Mueller could not prove that members of the trump admin knowingly colluded, in the legal sense of the word, with russian government, in the legal sense of the word. So ogliarchs, lawyers, etc are technically not the russian gov. This is why putin used them to do the dirty work. Also why nothing illegal about the trump tower meeting. 

Trump was not sure about the ability to get away with all this, so his actions could be viewed as obstruction. That is why mueller did not exonerate him on the obstruction charge, regardless of how many times trunp will say it. 

Summary - russia did meddle in the election, the trump admin did help with it. It appears it did not meet the illegal criteria however.

this is akin to the ok Simpson trial. Anyone with a clue knew he did it, but it couldn’t be proven, legally  

Oh my.  We’re deep into intervention territory now.  

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1 minute ago, revkevsdi said:

I would say no evidence is exactly that. No Trump tower meetings, no evidence of Jared (A guy that wasn't qualified for a security clearance) setting up back channel communications with the Kremlin. No secret plans to build in Moscow that were still ongoing during the election.  No meetings between Trump and Russian agents in the White house.  No one hour secret meetings between Trump and Putin where Trump looked like a whipped dog after.

But that all happened and people that formerly lost their shit when Obama told the Russians he would have more flexibility after the election, are cheering that Trump got away with it. 

 

 

Not in the manner you people think it did.  Look at the stuff Mueller prosecuted or sent on for prosecution by another dept.   He was picking at things with a fine toothed comb.   If there was even remote evidence something illegal took place he would have filed charges.  

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