Anler Posted February 14, 2019 Share Posted February 14, 2019 He has no problem backing death squads in Central America, but when a female Congressman questions him about his ignominious role in arming these killers, Trump's "special envoy" for Venezuela regime change is suddenly deeply offended. Hats off to Congresswoman Ilhan Omar (D-MN) for overturning the House Foreign Affairs Committee script and asking some real questions. You go girl! No wonder Trump wants her to resign, stupid girl has a conscience. < Older Newer > Ilhan Omar Smacks Down Elliott Abrams In Front Of Everybody written by caitlin johnstone thursday february 14, 2019 Days after being smashed with a vicious establishment smear campaign to paint her as an antisemite for accurately criticizing AIPAC, Minnesota Congresswoman Ilhan Omar is already back on the horse aggressively disrupting the establishment narrative matrix that our rulers have worked so hard to construct for us. Elliott Abrams is a monster. The atrocities that he has facilitated, covered up and whitewashed in Panama, El Salvador, Gaza, Guatemala, Nicaragua and Iraq are utterly unforgivable, and the fact that he has been appointed as special envoy to Venezuela by the Trump administration completely invalidates the US government’s Venezuela narrative all by itself. Even without the blatant lies, the known oil agendas, the CIA ops, the mounting evidence of US arms smuggling to right-wing militias, and America’s extensive history of utterly disastrous regime change interventionism, the fact that this administration would appoint such a ghoulish individual to spearhead its Venezuela interventionism alone is enough to show you that the US government has nothing but malevolent intentions for that nation. So it was nice to see someone in that government calling him what he is right to his face in front of everybody. At a House Foreign Affairs Committee hearing on US Venezuela policy, Abrams was presented with the only line of questioning that is appropriate for such a beast by the very congresswoman the Democrats threw to the wolves just two days ago. Someone had to do it, and they left it to Ilhan Omar. “In 1991, you pleaded guilty to two counts of withholding information from Congress regarding your involvement in the Iran-Contra affair, for which you were later pardoned by President George H.W. Bush,” Omar accurately stated. “I fail to understand why members of this committee, or the American people should find any testimony that you give today to be truthful.” “If I could respond to that-” Abrams began. “That wasn’t a question,” Omar responded, cutting him off. “It was an attack! It was an attack!” Abrams exclaimed, visibly upset. “I reserve the right to my time,” said Omar. “It is not right that members of this Committee can attack a witness who is not permitted to reply,” Abrams said, talking over Omar. “That was not a question; thank you for your participation,” Omar continued. “On February 8th, 1982, you testified before the Senate Foreign Relations Committee about US foreign policy in El Salvador. In that hearing, you dismissed as communist propaganda a report about the massacre of El Mozote of which more than 800 civilians, including children as young as two years old, were brutally murdered by US-trained troops. During that massacre, some of those troops bragged about raping 12 year-old girls before they killed them. You later said that the US policy in El Salvador was a ‘fabulous achievement.’ Yes or no, do you still think so?” “From the day that President Duarte was elected in a free election, to this day, El Salvador has been a democracy,” Abrams said angrily. “That’s a fabulous achievement.” “Yes or no, do you think that massacre was a fabulous achievement that happened under our watch?” Omar asked. “That is a ridiculous question and I will not respond to it,” Abrams replied. “I’m sorry Mr. Chairman, I am not going to respond to that kind of personal attack which is not a question.” “I will take that as a yes,” Omar said. “Yes or no, would you support an armed faction within Venezuela that engages in war crimes, crimes against humanity, or genocide if you believe they were serving US interests as you did in Guatemala, El Salvador and Nicaragua?” “I’m not going to respond to that question,” Abrams again answered. “I’m sorry, I don’t think this entire line of questioning is meant to be real questions, and so I will not reply.” “Whether under your watch a genocide will take place, and you will look the other way because American interests were being upheld is a fair question,” Omar said. “Because the American people want to know that any time we engage a country that we think about what our actions could be and how we believe our values are being furthered. That is my question: Will you make sure that human rights are not violated and that we uphold international and human rights?” “I suppose there is a question in there, and the answer is that the entire thrust of American policy in Venezuela is to support the Venezuelan people’s effort to restore democracy to their country,” Abrams responded. “That’s our policy.” “I don’t think anybody disputes that,” Omar said. “The question I had for you is that does the interests of the United States include protecting human rights and include protecting people against genocide?” “That is always the position of the United States,” Abrams lied. “Thank you,” concluded Omar. “I yield back the rest of my time.” The Discourse Lover@Trillburne It should be emphasized that the atrocities in Guatemala have been legally recognized as a genocide. This is tantamount to Holocaust denial. Max Boot ✔@MaxBoot Disgraceful ad hominem attacks by @IlhanMN on my @CFR_org colleague Elliott Abrams. She doesn't seem to realize he is a leading advocate of human rights and democracy--not a promoter of genocide! More evidence of the loony left I caution Democrats about: https://wapo.st/2DBb8x3 https://twitter.com/kylegriffin1/status/1095777138328961024 … 9,629 3:34 PM - Feb 13, 2019 Twitter Ads info and privacy 2,547 people are talking about this There is no legitimate reason for Elliott Abrams to ever find himself before a group of people who are ostensibly concerned with accountability and responsibility without being asked such questions. But that didn’t stop all the world’s worst people from crawling out of the woodwork to his defense. “Disgraceful ad hominem attacks by @IlhanMN on my @CFR_org colleague Elliott Abrams,” tweeted Iraq-raping neocon Max Boot. “She doesn’t seem to realize he is a leading advocate of human rights and democracy — not a promoter of genocide! More evidence of the loony left I caution Democrats about.” “I worked for Elliott Abrams as a civil servant,” tweeted Kelly Magsamen, Vice President of National Security for the plutocrat-backed liberal think tankCenter for American Progress. “He is a fierce advocate for human rights and democracy. Yes, he made serious professional mistakes and was held accountable. I’m a liberal but I’m also fair. We all have a lot of work to do together in Venezuela. We share goals.” “I am not greatly sympathetic to Rep. Omar (surprise surprise),” tweetedNational Review senior editor and former George W Bush speech writer Jay Nordlinger. “But really, someone ought to have given her a clue who Elliott Abrams is. The guy has been championing freedom and human rights his entire life (and taking unholy sh** for it from the illiberal Left and Right).” Conservative pundit Michael Knowles tossed his two cents into the campaign to purge the concept of antisemitism of any meaning by tweeting, “One wonders why @IlhanMN seems to harbor such particular contempt for Elliott¹ Abrams² (¹ from the Hebrew ‘Elijah,’ meaning ‘My God is Yahweh’ ² the father of the Jewish people).” Michael Knowles ✔@michaeljknowles One wonders why @IlhanMN seems to harbor such particular contempt for Elliott¹ Abrams². ¹ from the Hebrew "Elijah," meaning "My God is Yahweh" ² the father of the Jewish people 4,201 2:37 PM - Feb 13, 2019 Twitter Ads info and privacy 4,289 people are talking about this This is the bipartisan establishment orthodoxy that is guiding your foreign policy, America. One which claims Elliott Abrams is a saint, which claims criticism of US warmongering is antisemitic, and which throws a bold Somali-American woman under the bus for speaking the truth after years of paying lip service to the need to get more women of color elected to the leadership of the Democratic Party. This whole Abrams incident happened, by the way, at the same time Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu deleted a tweet in which he accidentally acknowledged the agenda to start a war with Iran, but you probably won’t see Omar commenting on this because she knows she’ll be smeared as an antisemite for it. US warmongering is the most aggressively protected part of the establishment narrative matrix, because US warmongering is the glue that holds the unipolar empire together. Without it, our rulers cannot rule, so you’ll see imperial lackeys fiercely attacking anyone who draws attention to America’s bloodbaths around the world, even if they are good servants of the empire in other areas. The difficulty for our rulers, though, is that warmongering is a very difficult thing to paint a pretty picture of, especially with our newfound ability to quickly share ideas and information around the globe. I mean, look at Elliott Abrams. Seriously, just watch him talk. That demonic grimace is the prettiest face they could find to put on their Venezuela agenda. I find that very encouraging. The reason they work so hard to manufacture our consent for warmongering agendas is because they need that consent. They wouldn’t propagandize us so aggressively if they didn’t need us all trusting them and believing their stories, so the best way to fight establishment warmongering is to circulate disbelief in their stories. Whenever you see someone like Ilhan Omar drawing attention to the gaping plot holes in agendas like regime change interventionism in Venezuela, go ahead and help draw attention to it. Things are only shitty because a few extremely powerful people do very shitty things. The only reason powerful people get away with doing very shitty things is because the majority allows them to. The majority only allows them to because they’ve been propagandized to. The weakest link in this chain is the propaganda. Attack there. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted February 14, 2019 Share Posted February 14, 2019 She's an anti-semitic POS. If she were a repub, she'd be off every committee by now. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anler Posted February 14, 2019 Author Share Posted February 14, 2019 5 minutes ago, Matt said: She's an anti-semitic POS. If she were a repub, she'd be off every committee by now. Thats why we love her! Youre a neocon pos. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Jimmy Snacks Posted February 14, 2019 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted February 14, 2019 (edited) 38 minutes ago, Matt said: She's an anti-semitic POS. If she were a repub, she'd be off every committee by now. 32 minutes ago, Anler said: Thats why we love her! Youre a neocon pos. Absolutely and no condemnation of Abrams....just more attacking of the messenger. BTW aren't any of you tired of the same old war mongering black hearted fuckers being trotted out to rationalize more death and destruction? What happened to draining the swamp? Edited February 14, 2019 by Jimmy Snacks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ford_428cj Posted February 14, 2019 Share Posted February 14, 2019 What would happen if the whole gov't was run by male & female Omar's ... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted February 14, 2019 Share Posted February 14, 2019 Omar is a huge gift to the repubs. She's exposing the left's complete acceptance of the hatred of Jews. There's an irony there when one considers the outsized influence the Jewish community has on the media in this country. They've been darlings of the left and have done the left's media bidding for the last 50 years. Now that they're out of the intersectional coalition and are no longer one of the left's chosen protected classes, will be interesting to see the longer term effects. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Jimmy Snacks Posted February 14, 2019 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted February 14, 2019 13 minutes ago, ford_428cj said: What would happen if the whole gov't was run by male & female Omar's ... Hopefully they would come to your shack,drag you from under your bed and lop your hillbilly head off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted February 14, 2019 Share Posted February 14, 2019 Just now, Jimmy Snacks said: Hopefully they would come to your shack,drag you from under your bed and lop your hillbilly head off. Emotional Jim. Boo hoo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anler Posted February 14, 2019 Author Share Posted February 14, 2019 17 minutes ago, ford_428cj said: What would happen if the whole gov't was run by male & female Omar's ... Joos wouldnt be running the country? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anler Posted February 14, 2019 Author Share Posted February 14, 2019 16 minutes ago, Matt said: Omar is a huge gift to the repubs. She's exposing the left's complete acceptance of the hatred of Jews. There's an irony there when one considers the outsized influence the Jewish community has on the media in this country. They've been darlings of the left and have done the left's media bidding for the last 50 years. Now that they're out of the intersectional coalition and are no longer one of the left's chosen protected classes, will be interesting to see the longer term effects. Are you retarded? Most joos are liberal. They smacked her because of her criticism of them due to all of the money they get from AIPAC. You dont know wtf youre talking about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ford_428cj Posted February 14, 2019 Share Posted February 14, 2019 1 minute ago, Jimmy Snacks said: Hopefully they would come to your shack,drag you from under your bed and lop your hillbilly head off. They wouldn't get me blubber boy... You on the other hand would surrender & kneel to your mooslim masters in typical snacks form ... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildboer Posted February 14, 2019 Share Posted February 14, 2019 18 minutes ago, Matt said: Omar is a huge gift to the repubs. She's exposing the left's complete acceptance of the hatred of Jews. There's an irony there when one considers the outsized influence the Jewish community has on the media in this country. They've been darlings of the left and have done the left's media bidding for the last 50 years. Now that they're out of the intersectional coalition and are no longer one of the left's chosen protected classes, will be interesting to see the longer term effects. Do you even realize what you just wrote? "The left is anti-semitic, now they're going to lose the support of the Jew run media." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anler Posted February 14, 2019 Author Share Posted February 14, 2019 4 minutes ago, ford_428cj said: They wouldn't get me blubber boy... You on the other hand would surrender & kneel to your mooslim masters in typical snacks form ... You should convert to islam now before they come and chop your head off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anler Posted February 14, 2019 Author Share Posted February 14, 2019 4 minutes ago, Wildboer said: Do you even realize what you just wrote? "The left is anti-semitic, now they're going to lose the support of the Jew run media." Dude drank some kool aid with ruffies in it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted February 14, 2019 Share Posted February 14, 2019 5 minutes ago, Wildboer said: Do you even realize what you just wrote? "The left is anti-semitic, now they're going to lose the support of the Jew run media." Anything is possible Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anler Posted February 14, 2019 Author Share Posted February 14, 2019 1 minute ago, DAVE said: Anything is possible If youre a retard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ford_428cj Posted February 14, 2019 Share Posted February 14, 2019 10 minutes ago, Anler said: Joos wouldnt be running the country? What's wrong with the country now? Is any mosslim run country better? 1 minute ago, Anler said: You should convert to islam now before they come and chop your head off. Ha! A country boy will survive Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Jimmy Snacks Posted February 14, 2019 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted February 14, 2019 14 minutes ago, ford_428cj said: They wouldn't get me blubber boy... You on the other hand would surrender & kneel to your mooslim masters in typical snacks form ... What's the big deal....you fuck chickens, they fuck goats....kindred spirits. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anler Posted February 14, 2019 Author Share Posted February 14, 2019 5 minutes ago, ford_428cj said: What's wrong with the country now? Is any mosslim run country better? Ha! A country boy will survive The countries we are bombing? Oh nothing. They will be making shwarma out of you in a new york minute. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Jimmy Snacks Posted February 14, 2019 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted February 14, 2019 1 minute ago, Anler said: The countries we are bombing? Oh nothing. They will be making shwarma out of you in a new york minute. I think the dipshit ran back to Team Safe Space already. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted February 14, 2019 Share Posted February 14, 2019 11 minutes ago, Jimmy Snacks said: I think the dipshit ran back to Team Safe Space already. Where you are to much of a baby to go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted February 14, 2019 Share Posted February 14, 2019 36 minutes ago, Wildboer said: Do you even realize what you just wrote? "The left is anti-semitic, now they're going to lose the support of the Jew run media." Yes. The left is pretty transparent about being anti-Israel and welcoming of those who are not able to separate distrust of Jews (people) with dislike of Israel (country). There's no outrage on the left when people like Omar retweet clearly anti-semitic sentiments. So, if the stereotype about the Jews having outsized media influence is true, and the left, which the media LOVES, is tripping over themselves to apologize for those like Omar who are clearly "out there" a bit... Will the landscape change? Fucked up times we live in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted February 14, 2019 Share Posted February 14, 2019 39 minutes ago, Anler said: Dude drank some kool aid with ruffies in it. You ever been to Israel? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Jimmy Snacks Posted February 14, 2019 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted February 14, 2019 Hey Fordy!!!!' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ford_428cj Posted February 14, 2019 Share Posted February 14, 2019 15 minutes ago, Jimmy Snacks said: What's the big deal....you fuck chickens, they fuck goats....kindred spirits. So you would be all for Sharia Law & muslims running the gov't? 14 minutes ago, Anler said: The countries we are bombing? Oh nothing. They will be making shwarma out of you in a new york minute. Not sure wtf that is ...but looks pretty good 12 minutes ago, Jimmy Snacks said: I think the dipshit ran back to Team Safe Space already. Settle down son - somebody has to work to pay for you to sit on yer ass all day ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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