hwytohell Posted February 14, 2019 Share Posted February 14, 2019 https://www.city-journal.org/high-speed-rail-projects Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AKIQPilot Posted February 14, 2019 Share Posted February 14, 2019 Hopefully @Mileage Psycho Stops in to educate himself just a little bit. He is a big thinker and all ya know Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teamgreen02 Posted February 14, 2019 Share Posted February 14, 2019 Just think, $77 billion for a high-speed rail line isn't a waste of money, but $5.7 billion for a wall and border security is worth shutting the government down for wasteful spending. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racer254 Posted February 14, 2019 Share Posted February 14, 2019 28 minutes ago, teamgreen02 said: Just think, $77 billion for a high-speed rail line isn't a waste of money, but $5.7 billion for a wall and border security is worth shutting the government down for wasteful spending. Hard to imagine the logic. It has nothing to do with the $$$, it's all caused by the simple fact that they don't want trump to succeed in any way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Skidooski Posted February 14, 2019 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted February 14, 2019 So High Speed rail is off to a great start. How the hell are we ever going to have a system connecting separate states together when they can't even connect a couple cities? Quote “build out high-speed rail at a scale where air travel stops becoming necessary.” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmo Posted February 14, 2019 Share Posted February 14, 2019 46 minutes ago, Skidooski said: So High Speed rail is off to a great start. How the hell are we ever going to have a system connecting separate states together when they can't even connect a couple cities? Why aren’t businessmen lining up to fund this venture? You could charge for the tickets and get your 77 billion back in no time!!!!!1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ActionfigureJoe Posted February 14, 2019 Share Posted February 14, 2019 A high speed train is way more important than a silly wall. But not at $77 billion. It seems the Europeans and Japanese can do trains far cheaper and better. Why not get them to come here and build it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold Member BOHICA Posted February 14, 2019 Gold Member Share Posted February 14, 2019 Real estate needed for rail is very expensive and a lengthy project due to the process of taking people’s land. It’s just not rail but the other infrastructure needed to power the rail. 77 billion is a way undershooting the cost of one of these projects. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildboer Posted February 14, 2019 Share Posted February 14, 2019 Airlines cram planes tighter and tighter, regularly hike fees and invent new things to charge for, and continue cutting back on customer service... Yeah, they're definitely running on a great fiscal model Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member steve from amherst Posted February 15, 2019 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted February 15, 2019 16 hours ago, Wildboer said: Airlines cram planes tighter and tighter, regularly hike fees and invent new things to charge for, and continue cutting back on customer service... Yeah, they're definitely running on a great fiscal model Well seeing ya can fly from Boston to Ft. Lauderdale for about $15 more then ya could in 1984 , what does one expect. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AKIQPilot Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 19 hours ago, Wildboer said: Airlines cram planes tighter and tighter, regularly hike fees and invent new things to charge for, and continue cutting back on customer service... Yeah, they're definitely running on a great fiscal model Historically flights have never been cheaper than now. The planes today are faster, more fuel efficient and much quieter than a similar plane of just 20 years ago. Airtravel is simple and safe and cheap for the consumer. Even TSA is barely an inconvenience. I am on between 40 and 50 flights per year. Airtravel has never been better than it is now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 1 minute ago, AKIQPilot said: Historically flights have never been cheaper than now. The planes today are faster, more fuel efficient and much quieter than a similar plane of just 20 years ago. Airtravel is simple and safe and cheap for the consumer. Even TSA is barely an inconvenience. I am on between 40 and 50 flights per year. Airtravel has never been better than it is now Baller? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member steve from amherst Posted February 15, 2019 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted February 15, 2019 1 minute ago, AKIQPilot said: I am on between 40 and 50 flights per year. Airtravel has never been better than it is now You have my sympathy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 Just now, steve from amherst said: You have my sympathy Hes not very tall...much easier. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcticCrusher Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 21 hours ago, ActionfigureJoe said: A high speed train is way more important than a silly wall. But not at $77 billion. It seems the Europeans and Japanese can do trains far cheaper and better. Why not get them to come here and build it. Well the distance this train was supposed to cover would travel across most European countries and Japan, so they don't have to do much more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mainecat Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 If your taller than 5’5” you are uncomfortable, over 6 feet and it’s almost impossible to fly anymore. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AKIQPilot Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 14 minutes ago, DAVE said: Hes not very tall...much easier. Midgets fly for half price by the way. Some of our flights are comped if we entertain the other passengers adequately. I fly a lot. I dont mind it a bit. It just means I’m going somewhere cool or warm if thats where I want to go. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 2 minutes ago, Mainecat said: If your taller than 5’5” you are uncomfortable, over 6 feet and it’s almost impossible to fly anymore. I dont have an issue at my height since ive lost weight. When i was chubbier i got the emerg exit seats. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ActionfigureJoe Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 19 minutes ago, ArcticCrusher said: Well the distance this train was supposed to cover would travel across most European countries and Japan, so they don't have to do much more. The high speed train in japan stretches for 320 miles. It’s about 50 more miles from LA to San Fran. So no. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
01mxz800 Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 2 hours ago, ActionfigureJoe said: The high speed train in japan stretches for 320 miles. It’s about 50 more miles from LA to San Fran. So no. The passenger rail systems in Japan and France have been in development for over 50 years the US gave up on passenger service for the most part 50 years ago, the closest thing to high speed rail in the US is the Northeast Corridor which is maybe 150mph. For high speed like they have overseas you would need a separate right of way with wide sweeping curves no grade crossings, couple that with having to run the overhead wires to power the trains as diesel electrics are not capable of 200mph+ the 77bil in Ca. was a drop in the bucket for what this project will cost to go nation wide, the costs far outweigh the benefits Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ActionfigureJoe Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 11 minutes ago, 01mxz800 said: The passenger rail systems in Japan and France have been in development for over 50 years the US gave up on passenger service for the most part 50 years ago, the closest thing to high speed rail in the US is the Northeast Corridor which is maybe 150mph. For high speed like they have overseas you would need a separate right of way with wide sweeping curves no grade crossings, couple that with having to run the overhead wires to power the trains as diesel electrics are not capable of 200mph+ the 77bil in Ca. was a drop in the bucket for what this project will cost to go nation wide, the costs far outweigh the benefits The idea of this going nationwide isn’t even being suggested. It’s about taking pressure off the freeway system between urban areas. Only an idiot would be against that. The high speed rail systems in other countries have been updated and modified several times since its infancy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold Member BOHICA Posted February 15, 2019 Gold Member Share Posted February 15, 2019 Trump should propose building a high speed rail from the Pacific Ocean to New Orleans on the southern border right of way.... just make it a 30 ft tall solid concrete elevated track and attach it to the New Green deal. Jump on a high speed train in San Diego and be in New Orleans 30 hours or so later! Just imagine the environmental savings!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mileage Psycho Posted February 16, 2019 Share Posted February 16, 2019 On 2/14/2019 at 9:22 AM, AKIQPilot said: Hopefully @Mileage Psycho Stops in to educate himself just a little bit. He is a big thinker and all ya know I'm still a proponent of high speed rail to connect major metro areas, of course troglodytes like yourself have the inability to see anything that is innovative. It's going to happen, the ball is in motion. Quote Houston-Dallas high-speed rail construction may begin in late 2019 The train would travel at 200 miles per hour between 10 counties with trains departing every 30 minutes. The proposed route runs up through northwest Harris County roughly paralleling U.S. 290 until turning north toward Waller County, according to maps provided on the Texas Central website. The route from Houston to Dallas could include a midpoint stop in Bryan or College Station. According to estimates, commuters could travel about 50 minutes faster by the proposed train than plane and about 70 minutes faster than by driving in either direction between Houston to Dallas. https://www.chron.com/neighborhood/spring/news/article/Houston-Dallas-high-speed-rail-construction-may-13620560.php Aside from a fast commute, the rail may also alleviate congestion along the major roadways between Houston to Dallas, including Interstate 45. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmo Posted February 16, 2019 Share Posted February 16, 2019 I sure hope Texas is better at this than Cali. Maybe with all that wide open land it’s easier to pull this off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ez ryder Posted February 16, 2019 Share Posted February 16, 2019 why the fuck do you need a 77billion train when a fuck load of flights a day run from lax to sfo for about 50 bucks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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