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7 hours ago, ActionfigureJoe said:

Those that take risks or innovate were around 100 years ago and are still around today. They’ll bitch and moan about the taxes, but in the end they’ll pay em and continue to innovate and create because it’s in their DNA. I have no soft spot for the wealthy in the same way I have no sympathy for the poor. 

https://taxfoundation.org/taxes-rich-1950-not-high/

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9 minutes ago, revkevsdi said:

Funny how 70%!of Americans polled agree with raising taxes on the rich and the people on here argue against it.  

I thought they liked democracy. 

So less then 2000 people means most Americans want 70%

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5 minutes ago, fivebyfive said:

nt of taxpayers paid an average of 42.0 percent of their income in federal, state, and local taxes. Since then, the average effective tax rate of the top 1 percent has declined slightly overall. In 2014, the top 1 percent of taxpayers paid an average tax rate of 36.4 percent.   

2014 was before Trump reduced their taxes by 3.3 percent. So its closer to 33 percent instead of 42%.    

9% of 10 million is $900,000.00 per year. 

The trump tax cut gave $1,700 to a family making $50-75 grand. 

900,000/1700.  Is 530 families.  Those 530’families would increase the economy more than the one rich guy would. 

 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2017/12/06/the-richest-1-percent-now-owns-more-of-the-countrys-wealth-than-at-any-time-in-the-past-50-years/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.45ec99fa9657

You have to be stupid to think the top 1 percent collected 40% of the wealth by working harder and smarter than everyone else. 

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11 minutes ago, revkevsdi said:

nt of taxpayers paid an average of 42.0 percent of their income in federal, state, and local taxes. Since then, the average effective tax rate of the top 1 percent has declined slightly overall. In 2014, the top 1 percent of taxpayers paid an average tax rate of 36.4 percent.   

2014 was before Trump reduced their taxes by 3.3 percent. So its closer to 33 percent instead of 42%.    

9% of 10 million is $900,000.00 per year. 

The trump tax cut gave $1,700 to a family making $50-75 grand. 

900,000/1700.  Is 530 families.  Those 530’families would increase the economy more than the one rich guy would. 

 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2017/12/06/the-richest-1-percent-now-owns-more-of-the-countrys-wealth-than-at-any-time-in-the-past-50-years/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.45ec99fa9657

You have to be stupid to think the top 1 percent collected 40% of the wealth by working harder and smarter than everyone else. 

https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/FYFRGDA188S

The fact is that the time period during which we had the 90% plus marginal rates, the effective rates were much closer to what they are now.  And the tax collections as a percentage of GDP are actually equal to or greater now, versus then.

Consider this.  Who benefits most from a higher marginal rate?  Ironically I think it's the very people who would ostensibly be the target of those tax rates.  The ultra rich simply hire an army of tax lawyers and CPA's to shelter their tax burden, while those of lesser means have no such ability.  And if the ultra wealthy can't shelter enough of their income to satisfy their objective, they will simply move their wealth and/or businesses offshore.  So in the end, who really pays more taxes in that scenario?  I think it's worth thinking about.

 

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1 hour ago, revkevsdi said:

nt of taxpayers paid an average of 42.0 percent of their income in federal, state, and local taxes. Since then, the average effective tax rate of the top 1 percent has declined slightly overall. In 2014, the top 1 percent of taxpayers paid an average tax rate of 36.4 percent.   

2014 was before Trump reduced their taxes by 3.3 percent. So its closer to 33 percent instead of 42%.    

9% of 10 million is $900,000.00 per year. 

The trump tax cut gave $1,700 to a family making $50-75 grand. 

900,000/1700.  Is 530 families.  Those 530’families would increase the economy more than the one rich guy would. 

 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2017/12/06/the-richest-1-percent-now-owns-more-of-the-countrys-wealth-than-at-any-time-in-the-past-50-years/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.45ec99fa9657

You have to be stupid to think the top 1 percent collected 40% of the wealth by working harder and smarter than everyone else. 

You didn't do to well in math.

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11 hours ago, revkevsdi said:

Spell it out or shut up. 

They made it by having their money work for them, instead of dumb fucks like yourself.  What is the tax rate on long term capital gains in the USA? 20% max.

I love how the sheep throw around tax rates for the wealthy.  He is the thing, when you have as much aftertax wealth as these folks do, that capital becomes portable and much of their income can come from various tax efficient sources or they just tell the USA to go fuck themselves.

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The Democrat Party today announced that it is changing its symbol from the Donkey to a Condom because it more accurately reflects the Party's political stance.   A condom allows for inflation, halts production, destroys the next generation, protects a bunch of dicks, and gives you a sense of security while you're actually being screwed!

 

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46 minutes ago, ArcticCrusher said:

They made it by having their money work for them, instead of dumb fucks like yourself.  What is the tax rate on long term capital gains in the USA? 20% max.

I love how the sheep throw around tax rates for the wealthy.  He is the thing, when you have as much aftertax wealth as these folks do, that capital becomes portable and much of their income can come from various tax efficient sources or they just tell the USA to go fuck themselves.

Where?  People always claim the money will leave. If they are closing the money laundering tax havens, where is the money going to go?

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