Platinum Contributing Member Rigid1 Posted January 11, 2019 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted January 11, 2019 Just now, Mileage Psycho said: It's what the innocent do. The Obama administration did exactly the same... Whats you opinion on this Vince?? Citizens, journalists, businesses and others made a record 714,231 requests for information. The U.S. spent a record $434 million trying to keep up. It also spent about $28 million on lawyers’ fees to keep records secret. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snoslinger Posted January 11, 2019 Author Share Posted January 11, 2019 5 minutes ago, DAVE said: Its almost as dumb as collusion winning Trump the election. You call it critical thinking. ah, so now you're starting to make the turn. trump colluded, but no way did it help him win the election Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snoslinger Posted January 11, 2019 Author Share Posted January 11, 2019 Just now, Rigid1 said: The Obama administration did exactly the same... Whats you opinion on this Vince?? Citizens, journalists, businesses and others made a record 714,231 requests for information. The U.S. spent a record $434 million trying to keep up. It also spent about $28 million on lawyers’ fees to keep records secret. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 Just now, Snoslinger said: ah, so now you're starting to make the turn. trump colluded, but no way did it help him win the election Not at all....nice try though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Rigid1 Posted January 11, 2019 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted January 11, 2019 Just now, Snoslinger said: well then if that's the case, why do you think trump is going to try and stop it? ummm, because he doesnt want what he did in his private sex life to be made public?? Would you like your made public?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cop Watch Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 19 minutes ago, Snoslinger said: wp- russia mingled in the US election trumpsters - wp, lmao wp - manafort is under investigation, subpoenas likely trumpsters - wp, lmao wp - cohen is under investigation, sudpoenas likely trumpsters - wp, lmao wp - trump paid off women he had affairs with trumpsters - wp, lmao and on, and on, and on, and on, and on, and............. Washington Post Appends "Russian Propaganda Fake News" Story, Admits It May Be Fake https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-12-07/washington-post-apends-russian-propaganda-story-admits-it-may-be-fake In the latest example why the "mainstream media" is facing a historic crisis of confidence among its readership, facing unprecedented blowback following Craig Timberg November 24 Washington Post story "Russian propaganda effort helped spread ‘fake news’ during election, experts say", on Wednesday a lengthy editor's note appeared on top of the original article in which the editor not only distances the WaPo from the "experts" quoted in the original article whose "work" served as the basis for the entire article (and which became the most read WaPo story the day it was published) but also admits the Post could not "vouch for the validity of PropOrNot's finding regarding any individual media outlet", in effect admitting the entire story may have been, drumroll "fake news" and conceding the Bezos-owned publication may have engaged in defamation by smearing numerous websites - Zero Hedge included - with patently false and unsubstantiated allegations. It was the closest the Washington Post would come to formally retracting the story, which has now been thoroughly discredited not only by outside commentators, but by its own editor. The apended note in question: Editor’s Note: The Washington Post on Nov. 24 published a story on the work of four sets of researchers who have examined what they say are Russian propaganda efforts to undermine American democracy and interests. One of them was PropOrNot, a group that insists on public anonymity, which issued a report identifying more than 200 websites that, in its view, wittingly or unwittingly published or echoed Russian propaganda. A number of those sites have objected to being included on PropOrNot’s list, and some of the sites, as well as others not on the list, have publicly challenged the group’s methodology and conclusions. The Post, which did not name any of the sites, does not itself vouch for the validity of PropOrNot’s findings regarding any individual media outlet, nor did the article purport to do so. Since publication of The Post’s story, PropOrNot has removed some sites from its list. As The Washingtonian notes, the implicit concession follows intense and rising criticism of the article over the past two weeks. It was “rife with obviously reckless and unproven allegations,” Intercept reporters Glenn Greenwald and Ben Norton wrote, noting that PropOrNot, one of the groups whose research was cited in Timberg’s piece, “anonymous cowards.” One of the sites PropOrNot cited as Russian-influenced was the Drudge Report. The piece’s description of some sharers of bogus news as “useful idiots” could “theoretically include anyone on any social-media platform who shares news based on a click-bait headline,” Mathew Ingram wrote for Fortune. But the biggest issue was PropOrNot itself. As Adrian Chen wrote for the New Yorker, its methods were themselves suspect, hinting at counter-Russian propaganda - ostensibly with Ukrainian origins - and verification of its work was nearly impossible. Chen wrote “the prospect of legitimate dissenting voices being labelled fake news or Russian propaganda by mysterious groups of ex-government employees, with the help of a national newspaper, is even scarier.” Criticism culminated this week when the "Naked capitalism" blog threatened to sue the Washington Post, demanding a retraction. Now, at least, the "national newspaper" has taken some responsibility, however the key question remains: by admitting it never vetted its primary source, whose biased and conflicted "work" smeared hundreds of websites, this one included, just how is the Washington Post any different from the "fake news" it has been deriding on a daily basis ever since its endorsed presidential candidate lost the elections? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AKIQPilot Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 1 minute ago, Snoslinger said: you can do better I dont really need to though. Im headed to a big off road race today then back for a boat ride this afternoon. The annual Balloon Festival is going on in Havasu this week. Fun in every direction. There is no shortage of action around here 5139125B-B93D-4ED3-AF22-0C668DDA1850.MOV 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snoslinger Posted January 11, 2019 Author Share Posted January 11, 2019 Just now, Rigid1 said: ummm, because he doesnt want what he did in his private sex life to be made public?? Would you like your made public?? god damn you are an idiot. a complete idiot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cop Watch Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 Washington Post Rewrote Its Story On Russian Hacking Of The Power Grid https://www.forbes.com/sites/kalevleetaru/2017/01/01/fake-news-and-how-the-washington-post-rewrote-its-story-on-russian-hacking-of-the-power-grid/#1dff244e7ad5 On Friday the Washington Post sparked a wave of fear when it ran the breathless headline “Russian hackers penetrated U.S. electricity grid through a utility in Vermont, U.S. officials say.” The lead sentence offered “A code associated with the Russian hacking operation dubbed Grizzly Steppe by the Obama administration has been detected within the system of a Vermont utility, according to U.S. officials” and continued “While the Russians did not actively use the code to disrupt operations of the utility, according to officials who spoke on condition of anonymity in order to discuss a security matter, the penetration of the nation’s electrical grid is significant because it represents a potentially serious vulnerability.” Yet, it turns out this narrative was false and as the chronology below will show, illustrates how effectively false and misleading news can ricochet through the global news echo chamber through the pages of top tier newspapers that fail to properly verify their facts. The original article was posted online on the Washington Post's website at 7:55PM EST. Using the Internet Archive's Wayback Machine, we can see that sometime between 9:24PM and 10:06PM the Post updated the article to indicate that multiple computer systems at the utility had been breached ("computers" plural), but that further data was still being collected: “Officials said that it is unclear when the code entered the Vermont utility’s computers, and that an investigation will attempt to determine the timing and nature of the intrusion.” Several paragraphs of additional material were added between 8PM and 10PM, claiming and contextualizing the breach as part of a broader campaign of Russian hacking against the US, including the DNC and Podesta email breaches. Despite the article ballooning from 8 to 18 paragraphs, the publication date of the article remained unchanged and no editorial note was appended, meaning that a reader being forwarded a link to the article would have no way of knowing the article they were seeing was in any way changed from the original version published 2 hours prior. Yet, as the Post’s story ricocheted through the politically charged environment, other media outlets and technology experts began questioning the Post’s claims and the utility company itself finally issued a formal statement at 9:37PM EST, just an hour and a half after the Post's publication, pushing back on the Post’s claims: “We detected the malware in a single Burlington Electric Department laptop not connected to our organization’s grid systems. We took immediate action to isolate the laptop and alerted federal officials of this finding.” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ez ryder Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 10 minutes ago, Snoslinger said: no not a gif exactly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snoslinger Posted January 11, 2019 Author Share Posted January 11, 2019 1 minute ago, AKIQPilot said: I dont really need to though. Im headed to a big off road race today then back for a boat ride this afternoon. The annual Balloon Festival is going on in Havasu this week. Fun in every direction. There is no shortage of action around here 5139125B-B93D-4ED3-AF22-0C668DDA1850.MOV cool. is that your boat? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ez ryder Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 5 minutes ago, DAVE said: And he had to use campaign money to shut them up! campaign money that he put in to his campain from his personal accounts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Rigid1 Posted January 11, 2019 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted January 11, 2019 (edited) Just now, Snoslinger said: god damn you are an idiot. a complete idiot. Part 3 of slingers 3 step program when he doesnt get his way, sling the insults.. Edited January 11, 2019 by Rigid1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mainecat Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 1 hour ago, Snoslinger said: The Washington Post reported Wednesday that the top lawyer in the Trump White House had hired 17 attorneys as part of a strategy to suppress the release of the president’s most sensitive discussions with his closest advisers” https://www.yahoo.com/ The Mueller investigation is set to finish by late February. He’s gonna need a dozen more by then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mainecat Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 34 minutes ago, Snoslinger said: two questions in several days the trumpsters simply refuse to answer! They live in a swale Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 Just now, Mainecat said: The Mueller investigation is set to finish by late February. He’s gonna need a dozen more by then. Link? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mainecat Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 Just now, DAVE said: Link? It’s been talked about since November in the media. Pay attention. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 Just now, Mainecat said: It’s been talked about since November in the media. Pay attention. After Christmas or after the mid terms you mean? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AKIQPilot Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 7 minutes ago, Snoslinger said: cool. is that your boat? Yep. Bought it Monday. Its just to bop around the lake, do some exploring and hit the pubs and marinas around the lake. Its in perfect shape and was super cheap. Very happy with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmo Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 Seems as though WAPO has about as much credibility as the national enquirer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 Just now, AKIQPilot said: Yep. Bought it Monday. Its just to bop around the lake, do some exploring and hit the pubs and marinas around the lake. Its in perfect shape and was super cheap. Very happy with it. Did you come into some extra money? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AKIQPilot Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 Just now, DAVE said: Did you come into some extra money? Yep. My unemployment check. Hahahaha. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 Just now, AKIQPilot said: Yep. My unemployment check. Hahahaha. I wonder if it pays as good as disability? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AKIQPilot Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 1 minute ago, DAVE said: Did you come into some extra money? My wife wants a RZR next. Those arent cheap around here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AKIQPilot Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 Just now, DAVE said: I wonder if it pays as good as disability? Not quite. The rich Canadians on both sides of me are on some sort of “disability”. These guys are loaded. One is a disabled farmer and the other a disabled oil man. Freaking ballers I tell ya. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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