Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted January 9, 2019 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted January 9, 2019 https://www.sun-sentinel.com/local/broward/parkland/florida-school-shooting/fl-ne-stoneman-douglas-draft-report-20181212-story.html Armed teachers, stronger security and better law enforcement are needed to head off another school shooting like the one in Parkland, according to a panel reviewing the massacre at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School. The state commission investigating the shooting that killed 17 people on Feb. 14 released a draft report Wednesday listing a series of failures by Broward County agencies and recommendations for avoiding a similar tragedy in the future. The 407-page report, which is not final, found that deputies didn’t rush into the school to stop the carnage, and school staff committed numerous security breaches, including leaving doors unlocked and not calling a “Code Red” alarm quickly enough. The panel also voted to include a controversial proposal allowing classroom teachers to carry guns in schools if they go through a selection process that would include background checks and training. Such a change would require the state Legislature’s approval. Right now, school systems are allowed under a guardian program to arm certain school employees, such as security guards, administrators or librarians. Polk County Sheriff Grady Judd, a member of the Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School Public Safety Commission, said that program needs to be expanded to allow teachers to carry guns. “In the ideal world, we shouldn’t need anyone on campus with a gun, but that’s not the world we live in today,” he said. “One’s not enough. Two’s not enough. We need multiple people in order to protect the children.” The idea has already sparked concerns from Democratic U.S. Rep. Ted Deutch, whose district includes Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School. “Teachers want to teach, not be armed for combat in their classrooms,” he said. “Law enforcement cannot push their responsibilities to make our communities safer on to civilians that should be focused on educating their students.” Commission member Max Schachter, whose son was killed in the shooting, cast the sole dissenting vote. He said he’s heard from teachers who are opposed to the policy, and he said the commission should consider alternatives, such as hallway smoke cannons that would make it difficult for the killer to see. Other controversial issues related to the shooting weren’t addressed in the commission’s draft report. It does not recommend new gun control policies. The commission also decided to stand back from some of its more expensive and elaborate proposals, such as metal detectors and bulletproof glass. It also did not call for Broward County Sheriff Scott Israel to be suspended from office. That’s a decision the governor will make. Republican Gov.-elect Ron DeSantis, who will be sworn in on Jan. 8, has called repeatedly for Israel’s removal on the campaign trail. Ryan Petty, a commission member whose 14-year-old daughter Alaina was killed in the attack, said the initial focus should be on quick, low-cost improvements that could produce the biggest immediate gains, from increasing school security to making sure threats are taken seriously. “This was the most preventable school shooting that I’ve ever seen data on,” he said. “This kid was screaming for help by publishing his intentions.” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cold War Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 On the mews this morning , they had little gal. Shooting armed robber with her gun when he pulled gun on her. How come women’s groups don’t call these women brave &. heroes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Skidooski Posted January 9, 2019 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted January 9, 2019 You dumb ass beta pedo barbiehands scared dumb Americans shouldn't have access to any guns!!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mainecat Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 Yeah that’s gonna work. I see teachers getting shot by cops showing up when a shooting happens. Why not issue handguns to every student when they enter the school every day? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zambroski Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 1 minute ago, Mainecat said: Yeah that’s gonna work. I see teachers getting shot by cops showing up when a shooting happens. Why not issue handguns to every student when they enter the school every day? Do you feed through a tube? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member steve from amherst Posted January 9, 2019 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted January 9, 2019 1 minute ago, Mainecat said: Yeah that’s gonna work. I see teachers getting shot by cops showing up when a shooting happens. Why not issue handguns to every student when they enter the school every day? You do realze that in the state you live in any adult ( non student) with a concealed carry permit can carry in a school , right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JEFF Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 34 minutes ago, steve from amherst said: You do realze that in the state you live in any adult ( non student) with a concealed carry permit can carry in a school , right? The bold is not necessary in NH. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member steve from amherst Posted January 9, 2019 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted January 9, 2019 10 minutes ago, JEFF said: The bold is not necessary in NH. Actually I do believe that to comply with federal law it is Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member steve from amherst Posted January 9, 2019 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted January 9, 2019 That obviously is for school grounds only Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ActionfigureJoe Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 This next two groups of American kids are going to be so fucked up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JEFF Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 2 hours ago, steve from amherst said: Actually I do believe that to comply with federal law it is Up to the city- town... Where can I carry my firearm? Firearms cannot be taken, openly or concealed, into most federal buildings – including post offices – or into any courthouse, whether federal, state or county. Airports, of course, have strict guidelines about weapons and most hospitals forbid carrying firearms and other weapons. Schools are trickier. There is no state law that mandates gun-free school zones, so it’s up to each community to decide whether firearms can be brought onto school property or possessed by students. Many school systems have banned guns in schools, at least when children are in the building – an issue that came up at the recent election because many polling places are in schools and voters could bring their firearms. https://www.concordmonitor.com/gun-law-concealed-carry-8281016 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member steve from amherst Posted January 10, 2019 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted January 10, 2019 When New Hampshire’s permitless carry law went into effect on February 22, 2017, it raised a question as to the law’s impact on the federal prohibition on firearms in schools and a surrounding 1,000 foot “school zone”. Federal law only provides a limited exemption to the prohibition if a person is licensed to possess a firearm or the firearm is unloaded and secured. https://www.nraila.org/articles/20180202/new-hampshire-attorney-general-opines-on-school-carry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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