Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted January 8, 2019 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted January 8, 2019 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Anler said: You can debate these guys. Seems many think its a good idea... Cuz its working. Did you even watch the video where Jim talks about the automatization offsetting the increases? Also an important note. Most were already there. Amazon had been paying a starting minimum wage of $11 an hour, and said its average wage for full-time workers at the fulfillment centers where it packages and sorts orders was more than $15 an hour. It had not disclosed pay for part-time and contract workers. Amazon said workers who now make more than $15 an hour will also get a pay bump, though it won’t say how much. Edited January 8, 2019 by Highmark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 30 minutes ago, Anler said: I'm sure you are one of the guys who said $15 min wage in Seattle would be a death blow. Turns out it has been the opposite. # of jobs has increaed. Min wage needs to move with inflation otherwise it is counter productive. You know that correlation does equal causation. It could very well be holding job growth back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snoslinger Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 these are the reasons i believe skidmark thinks he pays his employees well, but really doesn't. because he may pay sarah $.25 an hour more than a competitor down the road may pay her, he thinks that's all that's necessary to feel good about himself and consider himself santa claus. the problem is much deeper than that. the workers should be making more as a whole, instead of the nickel and diming between the local competitors in similar industries. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 1 minute ago, Snoslinger said: these are the reasons i believe skidmark thinks he pays his employees well, but really doesn't. because he may pay sarah $.25 an hour more than a competitor down the road may pay her, he thinks that's all that's necessary to feel good about himself and consider himself santa claus. the problem is much deeper than that. the workers should be making more as a whole, instead of the nickel and diming between the local competitors in similar industries. How much of your paycheque are you giving to employees that make less than you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted January 8, 2019 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted January 8, 2019 9 minutes ago, Snoslinger said: these are the reasons i believe skidmark thinks he pays his employees well, but really doesn't. because he may pay sarah $.25 an hour more than a competitor down the road may pay her, he thinks that's all that's necessary to feel good about himself and consider himself santa claus. the problem is much deeper than that. the workers should be making more as a whole, instead of the nickel and diming between the local competitors in similar industries. Out of 40 I probably have 10 that make more than you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snoslinger Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 Just now, Highmark said: Out of 40 I probably have 10 that make more than you. i highly doubt that, but it's irrelevant nonetheless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snoslinger Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 iowa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anler Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 (edited) 19 minutes ago, Highmark said: Did you even watch the video where Jim talks about the automatization offsetting the increases? Also an important note. Most were already there. Amazon had been paying a starting minimum wage of $11 an hour, and said its average wage for full-time workers at the fulfillment centers where it packages and sorts orders was more than $15 an hour. It had not disclosed pay for part-time and contract workers. Amazon said workers who now make more than $15 an hour will also get a pay bump, though it won’t say how much. Yes which is true, you only listen to the parts you want to. Of course automation is going to increase in our society no matter what because it is the progression of things. He also went on to say that many other retailers are increasing their minimum pay because it is good for their business. And Kramer even says that this is the path to full employment. Getting good people and paying them well. These guys are on board. Edited January 8, 2019 by Anler Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted January 8, 2019 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted January 8, 2019 Just now, Snoslinger said: i highly doubt that, but it's irrelevant nonetheless. Neither is your false assumption of how I treat my people. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snoslinger Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 Just now, Highmark said: Neither is your false assumption of how I treat my people. your posts over the years say it all.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted January 8, 2019 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted January 8, 2019 Just now, Anler said: Yes which is tture, you only listen to the parts you want to. Of course automation is going to increase in our society no matter what because it is the progression of things. He also went on to say that many other retailers are increasing their minimum pay because it is good for their business. And Kramer even says that this is the path to full employment. Getting good people and paying them well. These guys are on board. Of course they will say that instead of talking about keeping people, or difficulty to find good people....you know natural market forces. Again most of Amazon people were already above $15.00. Glad you are so trusting in what corps say. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snoslinger Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 15 minutes ago, Rod Johnson said: How much of your paycheque are you giving to employees that make less than you we are talking about employers, profits, and pay scales in the working world. maybe start a "i was given a farm" thread if you want to discuss your situation with others? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 Just now, Snoslinger said: we are talking about employers, profits, and pay scales in the working world. maybe start a "i was given a farm" thread if you want to discuss your situation with others? I wasn’t given a farm. I asked how much of your wages you’re willing to give to people who make less than you. My guess is zero, because you’re a complete hypocrite Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anler Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 6 minutes ago, Highmark said: Of course they will say that instead of talking about keeping people, or difficulty to find good people....you know natural market forces. Again most of Amazon people were already above $15.00. Glad you are so trusting in what corps say. I was talking about Seattle. You just keep changing the narrative until you find something that makes you look like you know wtf youre talking about because you have been dead wrong on this one for years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snoslinger Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 Just now, Rod Johnson said: I wasn’t given a farm. I asked how much of your wages you’re willing to give to people who make less than you. My guess is zero, because you’re a complete hypocrite wtf? am i their employer? like i said, create a thread you know something about, handouts.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anler Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 And I own 2 corps and pay well above that before someone tells me what I should do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 1 minute ago, Snoslinger said: wtf? am i their employer? like i said, create a thread you know something about, handouts.... Why do you have to be their employer? Can’t you just give them more money if they need more? You say you have lots. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 1 minute ago, Anler said: And I own 2 corps and pay well above that before someone tells me what I should do. I pay well above minimum as well! Tbh I don’t want minimum wagers around Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
revkevsdi Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 4 minutes ago, Snoslinger said: we are talking about employers, profits, and pay scales in the working world. maybe start a "i was given a farm" thread if you want to discuss your situation with others? Ouch! Barbiehands Rod takes a hit 3 minutes ago, Rod Johnson said: I wasn’t given a farm. I asked how much of your wages you’re willing to give to people who make less than you. My guess is zero, because you’re a complete hypocrite Your in-laws aren’t dumb enough to hand over control to a semi-literate hayseed like you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 2 minutes ago, revkevsdi said: Ouch! Barbiehands Rod takes a hit Your in-laws aren’t dumb enough to hand over control to a semi-literate hayseed like you. We can’t all be minimum wage earners like you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
revkevsdi Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 1 minute ago, Rod Johnson said: We can’t all be minimum wage earners like you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cold War Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 80% are living pay check to pay check, but none here are? Most peoplle that come in can’t cover a $500 deductible with cash. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
revkevsdi Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 5 minutes ago, Cold War said: 80% are living pay check to pay check, but none here are? Most peoplle that come in can’t cover a $500 deductible with cash. Must be a shitty way to live if 500 bucks wrecks your financing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anler Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 18 minutes ago, Rod Johnson said: I pay well above minimum as well! Tbh I don’t want minimum wagers around Hey you are alright for a joo... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member steve from amherst Posted January 8, 2019 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted January 8, 2019 47 minutes ago, Snoslinger said: these are the reasons i believe skidmark thinks he pays his employees well, but really doesn't. because he may pay sarah $.25 an hour more than a competitor down the road may pay her, he thinks that's all that's necessary to feel good about himself and consider himself santa claus. the problem is much deeper than that. the workers should be making more as a whole, instead of the nickel and diming between the local competitors in similar industries. IM curious. Do you cut your own lawn and clean your own home? If not , how much more would you be willing to pay to have those services done for you before you decided to do it yourself instead of pay more. Would you pay $10 more per week for each service? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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