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1 hour ago, Momorider said:

Price of gas up :bigfinger: :fuckoff:Truejet

Doug is costing us much money with is ignorant governing 

 

At least Wynne had a plan and was executed well and you didn't even notice -  DID YOU NOTICE ANY PRICES COMING DOWN WHEN DOUG CANCELED CAP AND TRADE?  NO YOU DIDN'T 

 

What a fuck wad FORD is

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14 minutes ago, 1trailmaker said:

Doug is costing us much money with is ignorant governing 

 

At least Wynne had a plan and was executed well and you didn't even notice -  DID YOU NOTICE ANY PRICES COMING DOWN WHEN DOUG CANCELED CAP AND TRADE?  NO YOU DIDN'T 

 

What a fuck wad FORD is

Yes I did notice :finger: you're WRONG AGAIN FAIL 

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Just now, Momorider said:

Yes I did notice :finger: you're WRONG AGAIN FAIL 

No you didn't don't lie for FORD

You will notice it now we can agree - thanks Doug 

 

Just imagine record employment, great economy all under Cap and Trade - what happened :dunno:  oh ya a SLOGANMAN told you it was bad :lol: 

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6 minutes ago, Kev144 said:

Saw it for 89 the other day.  Thanks Ford!!!11

lol ya go Ford go :lol: 

What is funny is complaints that Trudeau isn't doing enough to raise OIL prices (meaning higher gas prices) so Alberta can continue their One Trick Pony ways.

 

Just amazing what Politics have become 

 

Do you think prices of say Food will come down with the gas prices being so low?  NO you won't but will hear about prices going up due to higher gas prices.  

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4 minutes ago, 1trailmaker said:

lol ya go Ford go :lol: 

What is funny is complaints that Trudeau isn't doing enough to raise OIL prices (meaning higher gas prices) so Alberta can continue their One Trick Pony ways.

 

Just amazing what Politics have become 

 

Do you think prices of say Food will come down with the gas prices being so low?  NO you won't but will hear about prices going up due to higher gas prices.  

Gas is still very high in Relation to crude.  Alberta gambled on oil.  Where are the complaints about wanting Trudeau to raise crude outside of the workers who directly benefit it?

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On 1/3/2019 at 11:52 AM, 1trailmaker said:

No you didn't don't lie for FORD

You will notice it now we can agree - thanks Doug 

 

Just imagine record employment, great economy all under Cap and Trade - what happened :dunno:  oh ya a SLOGANMAN told you it was bad :lol: 

I did you are a Liar and :wrong: AGAIN FAIL :finger3:

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Fail, what is so tough for you to understand?

Doug Ford does not control pipelines or oil prices.  Ford can try to reduce taxes on the gasoline.

THe majority of oil used in Eastern Canada refineries comes from offshore.  Venezuela, Saudi Arabia, Great Britain.  It is purchased at world market prices.  It is cheaper to buy offshore then ship oil across canada.  

Most of Alberta oil is land locked and stuck going to USA where we are at the mercy of USA markets as our only purchaser.  

Oil pipelines across Canada would open the markets for Canadian oil.  Would it reduce price of gas in Canada if we could send by pipeline to East Coast?

Maybe, maybe not.  But if the oil Canadian oil could be transported by pipeline and eventually sold at global market prices instead of being sold at a discount in USA it would be better for Canada.  Greater revenues = greater taxes for the Canadian coffers.

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20 minutes ago, Sksman said:

Fail, what is so tough for you to understand?

Doug Ford does not control pipelines or oil prices.  Ford can try to reduce taxes on the gasoline.

THe majority of oil used in Eastern Canada refineries comes from offshore.  Venezuela, Saudi Arabia, Great Britain.  It is purchased at world market prices.  It is cheaper to buy offshore then ship oil across canada.  

Most of Alberta oil is land locked and stuck going to USA where we are at the mercy of USA markets as our only purchaser.  

Oil pipelines across Canada would open the markets for Canadian oil.  Would it reduce price of gas in Canada if we could send by pipeline to East Coast?

Maybe, maybe not.  But if the oil Canadian oil could be transported by pipeline and eventually sold at global market prices instead of being sold at a discount in USA it would be better for Canada.  Greater revenues = greater taxes for the Canadian coffers.

Ford is going to cost us money by trying to fight the Carbon Tax all while canceling something already in place for 2 years.....

This is typical of NoPlanDOUG 

what is so hard to understand :dunno:  tell me how much you are now saving since cap and trade was canceled?  I will wait for your totals 

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6 hours ago, 1trailmaker said:

Ford is going to cost us money by trying to fight the Carbon Tax all while canceling something already in place for 2 years.....

This is typical of NoPlanDOUG 

what is so hard to understand :dunno:  tell me how much you are now saving since cap and trade was canceled?  I will wait for your totals 

how much was spent on a pipe line that we bought that don't even exist, and not likely ever will

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17 hours ago, 1trailmaker said:

Ford is going to cost us money by trying to fight the Carbon Tax all while canceling something already in place for 2 years.....

This is typical of NoPlanDOUG 

what is so hard to understand :dunno:  tell me how much you are now saving since cap and trade was canceled?  I will wait for your totals 

Fail any tax costs us money.  It doesn’t matter how you try to argue or what a politician promises you in a rebate or tax credit.  If they are talking a carbon tax and you burn any fossil fuel in any activity in your life right down to heating your house or water it costs you money.  

And if you believe that a government tax program that creates a huge beauracracy will be revenue neutral you believe in the Easter bunny, Santa Claus and voting and voting for Justin Trudeau is a good idea.

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1 hour ago, Sksman said:

Fail any tax costs us money.  It doesn’t matter how you try to argue or what a politician promises you in a rebate or tax credit.  If they are talking a carbon tax and you burn any fossil fuel in any activity in your life right down to heating your house or water it costs you money.  

And if you believe that a government tax program that creates a huge beauracracy will be revenue neutral you believe in the Easter bunny, Santa Claus and voting and voting for Justin Trudeau is a good idea.

we had cap and trade - you noticed nothing - it was canceled you saved nothing on Hydro bill under .   Tell me again how Trudeau's blanket carbon tax isn't going to cost Ontario money?

 

EVERYTHING IS GOING UP UNDER DOUG - it certainly didn't come down when Hero Doug Canceled a well working program. 

 

CAP AND TRADE IS NOT A CARBON TAX - sorry about your knowledge on this topic, Doug hasn't told you the truth.  Anyway a couple of good slogans should make you feel good about your blind following for DOUG FORD - 

 

Either Way Trudeau Carbon tax is on DOUG in this case - Stop confusing no tax on Carbon with what is going to happen under SloganMAn 

REMEMBER IT IS ONLY ONTARIO AND  3 OTHER PROVINCES THE SIZE OF THE GTA THAT ARE GETTING THIS NEW CARBON TAX.

Thanks Doug we need this

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11 hours ago, 1trailmaker said:

we had cap and trade - you noticed nothing - it was canceled you saved nothing on Hydro bill under .   Tell me again how Trudeau's blanket carbon tax isn't going to cost Ontario money?

 

EVERYTHING IS GOING UP UNDER DOUG - it certainly didn't come down when Hero Doug Canceled a well working program. 

 

CAP AND TRADE IS NOT A CARBON TAX - sorry about your knowledge on this topic, Doug hasn't told you the truth.  Anyway a couple of good slogans should make you feel good about your blind following for DOUG FORD - 

 

Either Way Trudeau Carbon tax is on DOUG in this case - Stop confusing no tax on Carbon with what is going to happen under SloganMAn 

REMEMBER IT IS ONLY ONTARIO AND  3 OTHER PROVINCES THE SIZE OF THE GTA THAT ARE GETTING THIS NEW CARBON TAX.

Thanks Doug we need this

When is Trudeau’s carbon tax being implemented?

Only the stupid sheep believe Cap and Trade was not a carbon tax.  

 

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25 minutes ago, Sksman said:

When is Trudeau’s carbon tax being implemented?

Only the stupid sheep believe Cap and Trade was not a carbon tax.  

 

It was a more effective way to deliver the results the Government of Canada is going to take now.  

You have Andrew campaign style in the EAST because all   the WEST has a program in place already. Trudeau's tax isn't an issue their.  Doug made it an issue loud and dumb.

Job killing Tax has record employment in Ontario :dunno:  really SloganMan isn't gong to win anything here.

 

So we can't go back to Cap and Trade because of Doug's ego, so what is going to be his plan once he loses in court :dunno:  NO PLAN DOUG 

 

fact is you never noticed Cap and Trade, never saw a change in anything when it was canceled but so some reason its complete doom and gloom :dunno:  

 

 

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54 minutes ago, Sksman said:

When is Trudeau’s carbon tax being implemented?

Only the stupid sheep believe Cap and Trade was not a carbon tax.  

 

If SloganMan really wants to help out the People then get rid of the ECO TAX

but he won't because it doesn't help his agenda 

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14 hours ago, 1trailmaker said:

 

So we can't go back to Cap and Trade because of Doug's ego, so what is going to be his plan once he loses in court :dunno:  NO PLAN DOUG 

 

 

 

 

its just a stall tactic... By the time it goes anywhere Justine will be out and there will be nothing to fight because the Conservatives will just cancel it. Get with the fucking game

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4 minutes ago, steve6 said:

its just a stall tactic... By the time it goes anywhere Justine will be out and there will be nothing to fight because the Conservatives will just cancel it. Get with the fucking game

I don't think you are correct, most of Canada has a program already in place, this will not change.  Ontario/Sask will pay.  

Even Alberta has the tax already in place. 

We had a great system that really had no affect on the general spending in Ontario, this is about to change thanks to DOUG.  

 

And Trudeau will be voted in again I am pretty sure about this.  And the tax will be 1 year in before any other party can change it, it will not happen.

 

In the mean time with your GAME we are playing will cost all of us in Ontario money, DOUG OWNS THIS 

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23 minutes ago, toslow said:

wanna place a bet on that?

I was wondering the same thing? And this is from Trail's favorite news outlet. :lol:

In Canada, the Liberal government faces a restive electorate in October, raising the possibility of a one-term prime ministership for Justin Trudeau.

https://www.cbc.ca/radio/thesundayedition/january-6-2019-the-sunday-edition-with-michael-enright-1.4964589/liberals-around-the-world-are-struggling-to-define-themselves-michael-s-essay-1.4964873 

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4 hours ago, toslow said:

wanna place a bet on that?

There is a good chance we will never have anything other than One Term Leaders - This election will prove or disprove that statement.

We also may never have a majority government in the coming elections.

Social Media is evil 

 

I really believe Doug Ford getting elected increased Trudeau's chance of winning again.  Lets see if history repeats itself here or changes

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5 hours ago, irv said:

I was wondering the same thing? And this is from Trail's favorite news outlet. :lol:

In Canada, the Liberal government faces a restive electorate in October, raising the possibility of a one-term prime ministership for Justin Trudeau.

https://www.cbc.ca/radio/thesundayedition/january-6-2019-the-sunday-edition-with-michael-enright-1.4964589/liberals-around-the-world-are-struggling-to-define-themselves-michael-s-essay-1.4964873 

Let's hope this is correct-Trudope/Trudashian is a dangerous socialist idiot!

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