Gold Member BOHICA Posted January 2, 2019 Gold Member Share Posted January 2, 2019 https://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/2019/01/confirmed-chevrolets-bolt-loses-its-full-tax-credit-in-april-but-not-the-doomed-volt/ cant see gm developing anymore electric cars. Many manufactures have gobs of tax credits left and are going to be able to sell electrics much cheaper then gm can. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ActionfigureJoe Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 It’ll be funny when GM goes under and the Chinese buy em. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irv Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 4 minutes ago, BOHICA said: https://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/2019/01/confirmed-chevrolets-bolt-loses-its-full-tax-credit-in-april-but-not-the-doomed-volt/ cant see gm developing anymore electric cars. Many manufactures have gobs of tax credits left and are going to be able to sell electrics much cheaper then gm can. This is great news! Maybe GM will reconsider pulling production out of Canada and the U.S.? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The One Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 Just now, irv said: This is great news! Maybe GM will reconsider pulling production out of Canada and the U.S.? True, might be beneficial ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The One Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 4 minutes ago, ActionfigureJoe said: It’ll be funny when GM goes under and the Chinese buy em. Chinese own 90 % of the USA 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ActionfigureJoe Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 2 minutes ago, The One said: Chinese own 90 % of the USA Really? Show me some evidence of that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 Govt puts manufacturers in such a pickle. Demand they build these vehicles but not subsidize it. Neither is free market 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold Member BOHICA Posted January 2, 2019 Author Gold Member Share Posted January 2, 2019 (edited) FCA has like 160k or so worth of credits. Ford has 88k or so worthof credits. cant wait for the 525 hp and 700 ftlb f150 3.5 ecoboost plug in hybrid. 30 mpg to boot!!! Government would pay you to buy it! Edited January 2, 2019 by BOHICA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodtick Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 Electric cars are not cutting it. Nobody is buying them, because their range sucks and only gets worse as it gets older. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irv Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 37 minutes ago, The One said: True, might be beneficial ! Their stock plunged shortly after the pull out announcement when Trump mentioned about keeping plants open in the U.S. or else lose your subsidies so who knows? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xtralettucetomatoe580 Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 Just now, Woodtick said: Electric cars are not cutting it. Nobody is buying them, because their range sucks and only gets worse as it gets older. True, but their range, longevity, and pricing suck because there is no demand. Why would there be at sub $2 gas? Why stick money into a niche market like that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mainecat Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 Big oil is holding the country back. look at Norway... https://www.reuters.com/article/us-norway-autos/norways-electric-cars-zip-to-new-record-almost-a-third-of-all-sales-idUSKCN1OW0YP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mainecat Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 1 minute ago, irv said: Their stock plunged shortly after the pull out announcement when Trump mentioned about keeping plants open in the U.S. or else lose your subsidies so who knows? Trump cannot stop subsidies himself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irv Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 15 minutes ago, Mainecat said: Trump cannot stop subsidies himself. Maybe not but the stock sure took a hit when he mentioned it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold Member BOHICA Posted January 3, 2019 Author Gold Member Share Posted January 3, 2019 23 minutes ago, Woodtick said: Electric cars are not cutting it. Nobody is buying them, because their range sucks and only gets worse as it gets older. I think the Tesla model 3 is the best selling sedan in America.... or maybe it’s the best selling luxury car in America. EV’s in some form will always be there and take an ever increasing market share. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodtick Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 50 minutes ago, BOHICA said: I think the Tesla model 3 is the best selling sedan in America.... or maybe it’s the best selling luxury car in America. EV’s in some form will always be there and take an ever increasing market share. Their numbers tell a different story Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doorider Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 1 hour ago, Woodtick said: Electric cars are not cutting it. Nobody is buying them, because their range sucks and only gets worse as it gets older. Model S after 160k miles still averages less than 9% battery degrade. So there goes that theory. They can't make enough model 3s to keep up with orders, yet you say no one is buying them? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodtick Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 CNG is taking off like crazy with big fleets. Most of the Menards in my area have 24 hour propane filling station at their stores for vehicles.https://energy.ozinga.com/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodtick Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 2 minutes ago, Doorider said: Model S after 160k miles still averages less than 9% battery degrade. So there goes that theory. They can't make enough model 3s to keep up with orders, yet you say no one is buying them? Drink the electric kool Aid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anler Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 2 minutes ago, Woodtick said: Drink the electric kool Aid. They are right, Tesla's are Uber popular. They sell more than they can make. I like em. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doorider Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 2 minutes ago, Woodtick said: Drink the electric kool Aid. 2.28 0-60 time with over 300 miles of range... I'll drink up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Doorider Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 With only 3 different models, that's impressive! Fucking Cadillac sucks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodtick Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 (edited) most of Yeslas sales are in CA. CA has stupid Libtard laws. Edited January 3, 2019 by Woodtick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold Member BOHICA Posted January 3, 2019 Author Gold Member Share Posted January 3, 2019 51 minutes ago, Woodtick said: Their numbers tell a different story Model 3 is the 6th best selling sedan in November. It prolly is easily in the top 10 in car sale by model for the year and easily the best selling luxury car. I will not consider any vehicle for my purchases that won’t be a plug in hybrid. After test driving a 400 hp plug in hybrid suv I would hate to buy anything else. https://cleantechnica.com/2018/12/05/tesla-model-3-6-top-selling-car-in-usa-in-november-cleantechnica-report/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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