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Nov. 8, 2018

WASHINGTON — The Trump administration, invoking national security powers meant to protect the United States against threats from abroad, announced new rules on Thursday that give President Trump vast authority to deny asylum to virtually any migrant who crosses the border illegally.

Administration officials declined to say who will be affected by the new rules, but it is widely expected inside the government and by advocate groups that Mr. Trump intends to deny asylum to migrants from Central American nations, some of whom are marching toward the United States in a widely publicized caravan.

The president, who made immigration and the caravan major issues during the midterm election campaigns, is expected to announce on Friday which countries the rules will apply to. They will go into effect on an emergency basis as soon as they are published in the Federal Register.

The regulations will overhaul longstanding asylum laws that provide the opportunity for people fleeing persecution and violence in their home countries to seek sanctuary in the United States.

The changes effectively close the option of asylum to those who do not enter the country at an official port of entry, where immigrants and other travelers are legally allowed to cross from Mexico into the United States, after being processed by the Border Patrol. Recently, at some crossings, a crush of arrivals has created long lines and delays of several days.

“The law is clear: People can apply for asylum whether or not they’re at a port of entry, and regardless of their immigration status,” said Omar Jadwat, the director of the American Civil Liberties Union’s Immigrants’ Rights Project. “The president doesn’t get to ignore that law, even if he dislikes it.”

The new regulations draw upon the same authority Mr. Trump used to ban travel from several predominantly Muslim countries only days after his inauguration and are certain to be challenged in court.

Lawyers for immigration advocacy organizations said they violated a founding principle of federal asylum: to judge each person’s asylum claim on its own merits. And the lawyers said federal and international law made it clear that the United States must provide immigrants the opportunity to claim asylum regardless of whether they entered the country legally or illegally.

Trump administration officials defended the new approach, saying the president is responding to statistics that show that most migrants who seek asylum are eventually denied — but not before many of them skip their court hearings and choose to illegally stay in the United States.

Once the president makes a proclamation identifying who is barred by the new regulations, an official said, those people could apply for two other, smaller programs that are much less likely to result in them being allowed to stay in the United States.

An administration official who briefed reporters said the two programs would satisfy the United States’ treaty obligations — a claim critics say is not true. The official, who spoke on the condition of anonymity to provide details of the rules before they are published, said the new regulations were supported by laws that gave the president broad authority to control who entered the United States.

The Immigration and Nationality Act says the president “may by proclamation, and for such period as he shall deem necessary, suspend the entry of all aliens or any class of aliens as immigrants or nonimmigrants, or impose on the entry of aliens any restrictions he may deem to be appropriate.”

In writing the Supreme Court’s decision upholding the president’s travel ban this summer, Chief Justice John G. Roberts Jr. said the immigration act “exudes deference to the president in every clause.”

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/11/08/us/politics/trump-asylum-seekers-executive-order.html

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Hey dipshit, nothing has changed. The caravan of asylum seekers will go to the points of entry, and apply for asylum. Just like they always have. They are not “invading” our country, loaded with ms 13 gang members, rapists, and Ebola like trump was crying about up until the election. That was my point. 

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3 minutes ago, Snoslinger said:

Hey dipshit, nothing has changed. The caravan of asylum seekers will go to the points of entry, and apply for asylum. Just like they always have. They are not “invading” our country, loaded with ms 13 gang members, rapists, and Ebola like trump was crying about up until the election. That was my point. 

No, you are trying to imply that just because we had an election, 70% of the politicians in Washington should be in a 'campaign mode' atmosphere about this issue.

Political rhetoric on both sides goes down 95% after the election because no one is going to town halls, door to door about issues. You want 24/7 saturation. If that is what you want, be ready for perpetual yard signs, robocalls, door knocking and everything that comes with it.

Or the Cliff Notes version, you are a hack with an argument  that can be turned 180 degrees and thrown right back at you.

A hack.

Now, Trump followed through and did something. What have democrats done?

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9 minutes ago, Snoslinger said:

Hey dipshit, nothing has changed. The caravan of asylum seekers will go to the points of entry, and apply for asylum. Just like they always have. They are not “invading” our country, loaded with ms 13 gang members, rapists, and Ebola like trump was crying about up until the election. That was my point. 

and why should we grant it to them ? they turned down the Mexican govenment offers so obviously assilum is not really what they are seeking 

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“The law is clear: People can apply for asylum whether or not they’re at a port of entry, and regardless of their immigration status,” said Omar Jadwat, the director of the American Civil Liberties Union’s Immigrants’ Rights Project. “The president doesn’t get to ignore that law, even if he dislikes it.”

 

talk about looking at one side of a law........ .   just as the law is clear on entry to this country.  Cross the border illegally, you are illeagal.  whats so dificult??  no one is stopping people from "applying" for asylum, that doesnt mean we should be forced to let them come over the border and stay ,      all while we have to house, feed, give them free medical care  AND often times give them money with no return.    

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8 minutes ago, Snoslinger said:

I can tell you what’s next to happen. About the same amount of asylum seekers will show up, far less than what trump stated, trumpsters will think it was because of him that many more didn’t show

Remember the last time you said Trump didn't have the authority to BAN ACCESS to people from other countries?

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13 minutes ago, Snoslinger said:

I can tell you what’s next to happen. About the same amount of asylum seekers will show up, far less than what trump stated, trumpsters will think it was because of him that many more didn’t show

There's how many million Hispanic immigrants in this country? And now a couple thousand is an "invasion" ? This is all political fodder for you Meatheads. Build a wall, send the military I don't really give a shit. Nobody is talking about real solutions to the world's problems, just more stuff to argue about. 

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3 minutes ago, Snoslinger said:

Yeah, we became much safer. :handjob:

I'm sorry, was that your feels for a question regarding the law?

Fuck your feels. :lol:

Just now, frenchy said:

Action was taken. 

:lol: 

"Vote for democrats... it's for the immigrants1111!"

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16 minutes ago, Snoslinger said:

I can tell you what’s next to happen. About the same amount of asylum seekers will show up, far less than what trump stated, trumpsters will think it was because of him that many more didn’t show

we will put them on a bus and bring them home .there are not seeking asylum they proved that 

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1 minute ago, Anler said:

There's how many million Hispanic immigrants in this country? And now a couple thousand is an "invasion" ? This is all political fodder for you Meatheads. Build a wall, send the military I don't really give a shit. Nobody is talking about real solutions to the world's problems, just more stuff to argue about. 

I have the same stance as you on this so I guess you’re a meathead too

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