f7ben Posted October 3, 2018 Author Share Posted October 3, 2018 1 minute ago, Nazipigdog said: He's a beta nook. Jealous. Hes been smacked around so fully I think I'd just light myself on fire if I was him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frenchy Posted October 3, 2018 Share Posted October 3, 2018 2 minutes ago, f7ben said: I stated well before xlt got here that the auto gains were positive. Do I really ha e to go back and quote myself you fucking moron??? Worst deal ever in The history of American trade deals says trump. List the top 3 things that has turned it in to an excellent deal for America and how it will noticeably change the economy going forward and why. Go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted October 3, 2018 Author Share Posted October 3, 2018 1 minute ago, frenchy said: Worst deal ever in The history of American trade deals says trump. List the top 3 things that has turned it in to an excellent deal for America and how it will noticeably change the economy going forward and why. Go. How many times do I have to say I dont care what Trump has said. Are you fucking downs? The deals made gains. No person has tried to stand up for the American worker in decades. Trump deserves credit for pushing us here rhetoric aside Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frenchy Posted October 3, 2018 Share Posted October 3, 2018 3 minutes ago, f7ben said: How many times do I have to say I dont care what Trump has said. Are you fucking downs? The deals made gains. No person has tried to stand up for the American worker in decades. Trump deserves credit for pushing us here rhetoric aside Or you can just wait for xlt to answer for you, as expected. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xtralettucetomatoe580 Posted October 3, 2018 Share Posted October 3, 2018 3 minutes ago, frenchy said: Worst deal ever in The history of American trade deals says trump. List the top 3 things that has turned it in to an excellent deal for America and how it will noticeably change the economy going forward and why. Go. 1) We’ve already discussed the auto benefits for the US (All three countries actually). 2) Pharma is allowed to sell high end US drugs for another 2 years before generics can be copied by Canada. Seems small, but that is an enormous boost for Pharma. 3) increases IP rights for both US and Nook companies especially in biotech, financials, and the internets. 4) Review process in 6 years where all parties must agree 5) Dairy concessions and part of Class 7 rules cut back from Nookistan. Not huge, but big for my state with the US sending $637M to Canada in dairy products last year, a large part coming from WI. The big thing is this: We really didn’t concede anything. In reality new NAFTA was a win for all countries involved. Especially our interconnected auto industry apparatus just got a lot stronger (for all of us). Trump played this well IMO. Notice that’s why the media isn’t talking about this as much. This is a big accomplishment even if it doesn’t have “big” changes. That’s how you know it is overall positive change. If it wasn’t, Trump would be getting his butthole finger popped for the 1,000,000th time. More than anything he strengthened his hold on the Midwest/rust belt. It’s not flashy, but it’s better. I’d even say quite a big better. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xtralettucetomatoe580 Posted October 3, 2018 Share Posted October 3, 2018 For all of Trump’s scorched earth bombastic nonsense, his admin came to the table and put out some solid changes that didn’t fuck our neighbors but instead made us all stronger. I dig that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted October 3, 2018 Author Share Posted October 3, 2018 1 minute ago, xtralettucetomatoe580 said: For all of Trump’s scorched earth bombastic nonsense, his admin came to the table and put out some solid changes that didn’t fuck our neighbors but instead made us all stronger. I dig that. China is and always has been the target. All this other shit is ancillary and is being used to strengthen our position and put pressure on china Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xtralettucetomatoe580 Posted October 3, 2018 Share Posted October 3, 2018 Just now, f7ben said: China is and always has been the target. All this other shit is ancillary and is being used to strengthen our position and put pressure on china Yep. Plus this keeps the base happy. Makes Canada happy. Makes Mexico happy. Scares the Chinese. Scares Europe. I bet he has a new trade deal with Europe by spring. Smart move. Keep turning the screws on the Chinese and make amends with everyone else. Lot more to gain in Europe than in NAFTA too... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blizzman Posted October 3, 2018 Share Posted October 3, 2018 16 minutes ago, frenchy said: Or you can just wait for xlt to answer for you, as expected. 6 minutes ago, xtralettucetomatoe580 said: 1) We’ve already discussed the auto benefits for the US (All three countries actually). 2) Pharma is allowed to sell high end US drugs for another 2 years before generics can be copied by Canada. Seems small, but that is an enormous boost for Pharma. 3) increases IP rights for both US and Nook companies especially in biotech, financials, and the internets. 4) Review process in 6 years where all parties must agree 5) Dairy concessions and part of Class 7 rules cut back from Nookistan. Not huge, but big for my state with the US sending $637M to Canada in dairy products last year, a large part coming from WI. The big thing is this: We really didn’t concede anything. In reality new NAFTA was a win for all countries involved. Especially our interconnected auto industry apparatus just got a lot stronger (for all of us). Trump played this well IMO. Notice that’s why the media isn’t talking about this as much. This is a big accomplishment even if it doesn’t have “big” changes. That’s how you know it is overall positive change. If it wasn’t, Trump would be getting his butthole finger popped for the 1,000,000th time. More than anything he strengthened his hold on the Midwest/rust belt. It’s not flashy, but it’s better. I’d even say quite a big better. And down goes the wanna be sledskippingsinker. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Im4snow Posted October 3, 2018 Share Posted October 3, 2018 5 minutes ago, xtralettucetomatoe580 said: For all of Trump’s scorched earth bombastic nonsense, his admin came to the table and put out some solid changes that didn’t fuck our neighbors but instead made us all stronger. I dig that. When he said we’d grow tired of the winning, he wasn’t joking!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted October 3, 2018 Author Share Posted October 3, 2018 1 minute ago, xtralettucetomatoe580 said: Yep. Plus this keeps the base happy. Makes Canada happy. Makes Mexico happy. Scares the Chinese. Scares Europe. I bet he has a new trade deal with Europe by spring. Smart move. Keep turning the screws on the Chinese and make amends with everyone else. Lot more to gain in Europe than in NAFTA too... The EU is going to give us whatever we ask for. There will be a deal there soon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xtralettucetomatoe580 Posted October 3, 2018 Share Posted October 3, 2018 1 minute ago, f7ben said: The EU is going to give us whatever we ask for. There will be a deal there soon Auto, tech protection from overzealous euro laws, higher end export goods, the list goes on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frenchy Posted October 3, 2018 Share Posted October 3, 2018 1 minute ago, Blizzman said: And down goes the wanna be sledskippingsinker. Do you even read what you post? He said it’s a win for Canada and the US - you framed it as the US getting over on both countries. Dairy is irrelevant in the grand scheme of things and nothing more than a political talking point for trump. Won’t even be a blip on the radar for US dairy corps. It was handed to the US as a compromise that really won’t hurt the country that much we get to keep chapter 19 that trump was adamant about removing North Anerican content is a win for CanadiN part makers too it will take a while to see who wins in this area outright as it’s so complicated So all in all a tweak of N existing deal BFD so back where we began sub dripper a deal you don’t know the first thing about, don’t understand, or can even comment on, but one you decided to beat your chest about anyways time for your 14th beer 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frenchy Posted October 3, 2018 Share Posted October 3, 2018 10 minutes ago, f7ben said: The EU is going to give us whatever we ask for. There will be a deal there soon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blizzman Posted October 3, 2018 Share Posted October 3, 2018 1 minute ago, frenchy said: Do you even read what you post? He said it’s a win for Canada and the US - you framed it as the US getting over on both countries. Dairy is irrelevant in the grand scheme of things and nothing more than a political talking point for trump. Won’t even be a blip on the radar for US dairy corps. It was handed to the US as a compromise that really won’t hurt the country that much we get to keep chapter 19 that trump was adamant about removing North Anerican content is a win for CanadiN part makers too it will take a while to see who wins in this area outright as it’s so complicated So all in all a tweak of N existing deal BFD so back where we began sub dripper a deal you don’t know the first thing about, don’t understand, or can even comment on, but one you decided to beat your chest about anyways time for your 14th beer Think you quoted the wrong person.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kev144 Posted October 3, 2018 Share Posted October 3, 2018 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frenchy Posted October 3, 2018 Share Posted October 3, 2018 6 minutes ago, Blizzman said: Think you quoted the wrong person.... Yeah that was for MNmomo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Momorider Posted October 3, 2018 Share Posted October 3, 2018 Never back read the Frog stupidity in this thread but I read that Trump has power over China-Canada Trade in this agreement Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Kev144 Posted October 3, 2018 Share Posted October 3, 2018 2 minutes ago, Momorider said: Never back read the Frog stupidity in this thread but I read that Trump has power over China-Canada Trade in this agreement Would you say the new nafta Deal is the best deal by the greatest negotiator? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kev144 Posted October 3, 2018 Share Posted October 3, 2018 Just now, Momorider said: Hey the meme Queen is in with out understanding one fucking thing about the Deal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Momorider Posted October 3, 2018 Share Posted October 3, 2018 Just now, Kev144 said: Would you say the new nafta Deal is the best deal by the greatest negotiator? Yup, Faggot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irv Posted October 3, 2018 Share Posted October 3, 2018 16 minutes ago, frenchy said: Do you even read what you post? time for your 14th beer 8 minutes ago, frenchy said: Yeah that was for MNmomo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kev144 Posted October 3, 2018 Share Posted October 3, 2018 12 minutes ago, Momorider said: Yup, Faggot Yup didnt think you understood it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSFB Posted October 3, 2018 Share Posted October 3, 2018 On 10/1/2018 at 12:14 PM, frenchy said: this says it all Didn't read the thread but this is just another example of Trump being all about branding and perceptions. USMCA It starts with "US" and ends with "A". 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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