ActionfigureJoe Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 http://www.latimes.com/world/middleeast/la-fg-al-qaeda-survive-20180910-story.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frenchy Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 where's the $$ coming from? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hayward Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 25 minutes ago, frenchy said: where's the $$ coming from? Canada Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anler Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 When you have US funding, weapons and intel you have a recipe for success! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anler Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 Ever wonder why terrorist groups like Al Qaeda, ISIS, Al Nusra only attack in places we want to attack? Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, Syria, etc... They never attack Saudi Arabia, Israel or any of our other allies. Weird eh? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Jimmy Snacks Posted September 10, 2018 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted September 10, 2018 29 minutes ago, Nazipigdog said: Ever wonder why terrorist groups like Al Qaeda, ISIS, Al Nusra only attack in places we want to attack? Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, Syria, etc... They never attack Saudi Arabia, Israel or any of our other allies. Weird eh? That is an excellent point....hmmmmmm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frenchy Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 Not really as they can’t gain any sort of foothold in countries with a stable government and functioning military. See Iraq under Saddam. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted September 10, 2018 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted September 10, 2018 Libya was a pipeline to get non-American weapons into the hands of those fighting the Syrian govt. Never learn our lesson. Get out of the entire ME and let them burn it to the ground. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mainecat Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 Thanks Dickhead Cheney Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anler Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 18 minutes ago, Highmark said: Libya was a pipeline to get non-American weapons into the hands of those fighting the Syrian govt. Never learn our lesson. Get out of the entire ME and let them burn it to the ground. We are not there to fight terrorism, we are there to win whats there. 18 years in afghanistan now. Who are we fighting? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted September 10, 2018 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted September 10, 2018 Just now, Nazipigdog said: We are not there to fight terrorism, we are there to win whats there. 18 years in afghanistan now. Who are we fighting? Yes and no. Afghanistan was a training hotbed and without it stable it will just become that again. I'm not claiming its stable now but different than it use to be. You have to admit there is some history behind not just up and leaving right after a war. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anler Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 6 minutes ago, Highmark said: Yes and no. Afghanistan was a training hotbed and without it stable it will just become that again. I'm not claiming its stable now but different than it use to be. You have to admit there is some history behind not just up and leaving right after a war. So which country that we have liberated from evil dictator or terrorist hot bed is better now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted September 10, 2018 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted September 10, 2018 (edited) 20 minutes ago, Nazipigdog said: So which country that we have liberated from evil dictator or terrorist hot bed is better now? I'd say to some extent both Iraq and Afghanistan are better than when we got there for the majority of its people. By no mean's am I claiming we should have went into Iraq. Edited September 10, 2018 by Highmark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anler Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 13 minutes ago, Highmark said: I'd say to some extent both Iraq and Afghanistan are better than when we got there for the majority of its people. You think Iraq is better now than with Saddam? And Afghanistan too? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turf Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 (edited) One of my employees is from Iraq. He supports what the US did to Saddam over there. Things are much better now over there he says. He goes back every few years as he has rental property in Iraq. Edited September 10, 2018 by Turf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted September 10, 2018 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted September 10, 2018 (edited) 32 minutes ago, Nazipigdog said: You think Iraq is better now than with Saddam? And Afghanistan too? Not massively better but better. He gassed his own people man not to mention the death chambers of dissidents. He was brutal. It wasn't just the killing either but things like the environment disaster he ordered when leaving Kuwait. The coalition fucked up big time by letting him stay in power. https://abcnews.go.com/WNT/IraqCoverage/story?id=2761722&page=1 Afghanistan things are much better for women and children than under the Taliban. Edited September 10, 2018 by Highmark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Jimmy Snacks Posted September 10, 2018 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted September 10, 2018 47 minutes ago, Highmark said: I'd say to some extent both Iraq and Afghanistan are better than when we got there for the majority of its people. By no mean's am I claiming we should have went into Iraq. 33 minutes ago, Nazipigdog said: You think Iraq is better now than with Saddam? And Afghanistan too? Holy fuck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frenchy Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 8 minutes ago, Jimmy Snacks said: Holy fuck. unbelievable really. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xtralettucetomatoe580 Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 16 minutes ago, Highmark said: Not massively better but better. He gassed his own people man not to mention the death chambers of dissidents. He was brutal. It wasn't just the killing either but things like the environment disaster he ordered when leaving Kuwait. The coalition fucked up big time by letting him stay in power. https://abcnews.go.com/WNT/IraqCoverage/story?id=2761722&page=1 Afghanistan things are much better for women and children than under the Taliban. Lol oh yeah? Says who? At what cost? Who do you think runs the tribal areas? I’ll give you a couple guesses and it’s not the Afghani govt... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anler Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 29 minutes ago, Highmark said: Not massively better but better. He gassed his own people man not to mention the death chambers of dissidents. He was brutal. It wasn't just the killing either but things like the environment disaster he ordered when leaving Kuwait. The coalition fucked up big time by letting him stay in power. https://abcnews.go.com/WNT/IraqCoverage/story?id=2761722&page=1 Afghanistan things are much better for women and children than under the Taliban. He gassed people when they were at war with Iran killing approx 3-5000 people. Since we invaded we killed over 500,000... As bad as Saddam was I bet those people would rather be alive. Whatever people want to say, prior to our occupation baghdad was relatively safe. And many historical sites were intact. Our occupation and the void left helped ISIS come to power and their atrocities were far worse than Saddam. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xtralettucetomatoe580 Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 1 minute ago, Nazipigdog said: He gassed people when they were at war with Iran killing approx 3-5000 people. Since we invaded we killed over 500,000... As bad as Saddam was I bet those people would rather be alive. Whatever people want to say, prior to our occupation baghdad was relatively safe. And many historical sites were intact. Our occupation and the void left helped ISIS come to power and their atrocities were far worse than Saddam. Also, not our fucking bidness. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anler Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 2 minutes ago, xtralettucetomatoe580 said: Also, not our fucking bidness. Why is this so hard to understand? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ActionfigureJoe Posted September 10, 2018 Author Share Posted September 10, 2018 47 minutes ago, Highmark said: Not massively better but better. He gassed his own people man not to mention the death chambers of dissidents. He was brutal. It wasn't just the killing either but things like the environment disaster he ordered when leaving Kuwait. The coalition fucked up big time by letting him stay in power. https://abcnews.go.com/WNT/IraqCoverage/story?id=2761722&page=1 Afghanistan things are much better for women and children than under the Taliban. You’ve bought the rhetoric hook line and sinker. Congratulations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anler Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 4 minutes ago, ActionfigureJoe said: You’ve bought the rhetoric hook line and sinker. Congratulations. He is not alone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ActionfigureJoe Posted September 10, 2018 Author Share Posted September 10, 2018 33 minutes ago, xtralettucetomatoe580 said: Lol oh yeah? Says who? At what cost? Who do you think runs the tribal areas? I’ll give you a couple guesses and it’s not the Afghani govt... Over 40 million live in the poshtun valley. The largest tribal region in the world. A full scale nuclear war could destroy civilization and a lot of those people would just shrug their shoulders. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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