If you could trade Trump for Bernie would you?

[jtssrx]

2 hours ago, f7ben said:

I would......Bernie would have done much of what Trump is doing on trade which is the only thing I have been pleased with Trump on. Bernie would have done a lot more shit that I support as well. 

Trump is a corrupt lying retard and the only thing he has done right is tackling trade........the rest has been 100% pure shit

I know you think you’re awake but Bernie has never accomplished anything in his life outside of government. Government is a massive failure as you and I both know

Not to mention presidents are puppets. Bernie wouldn’t have done anything the powers that be didn’t want gim to do “see the wall”.

[f7ben]

Just now, jtssrx said:

I know you think you’re awake but Bernie has never accomplished anything in his life outside of government. Government is a massive failure as you and I both know

Not to mention presidents are puppets. Bernie wouldn’t have done anything the powers that be didn’t want gim to do “see the wall”.

Bernie has voted against the onslaught against our 4th amendment at every step.........that is 10000% more valuable than anything that bootlicking pile of fuck Trump will do. 

Bernie could have reigned in the corrupt US Intel community. Trump just signs laws that give them more power

[BOHICA]

Watching one of the dem debates where he got backed into a corner on gun rights and he flip flopped in a heart beat....  it was when I knew he was nothing but an empty suit.  He is just a career.....  very long career politician.  So nope.

[motonoggin]

Just now, f7ben said:

I totally disagree........trump is prolonging capitalism significantly with his current attack on predatory trade practices that have crushed out middle class

capitalism won't last unless everyone sees a significant increase in their paychecks. I don't think any of what Trump is doing is going to bring wages up enough to start tapering back our reliance on debt. 

And that's just the short term issues. Looming technological advances could cut labor requirements in such a fashion that wages' share of aggregate demand will dwindle to nothing. And any short term rise in wages is going to spur that process on. 

Capitalism has a built-in poison pill. It will happen, and IMO Trump will accelerate that. 

[Zambroski]

Not a chance.  Bernie is a half-witted blow hard sell out who couldn’t hold a job until he got into politics.  He’s a career politician.  Period.  Any doubt of that was removed when he met Hillary on stage to congratulate her on the nomination.

Credit though....his Socialist antics are driving the Dems nuts right now.  They are fractured in so many ways it makes me laugh.

[f7ben]

1 minute ago, motonoggin said:

capitalism won't last unless everyone sees a significant increase in their paychecks. I don't think any of what Trump is doing is going to bring wages up enough to start tapering back our reliance on debt. 

And that's just the short term issues. Looming technological advances could cut labor requirements in such a fashion that wages' share of aggregate demand will dwindle to nothing. And any short term rise in wages is going to spur that process on. 

Capitalism has a built-in poison pill. It will happen, and IMO Trump will accelerate that. 

well how would you have seen Bernie as a stop gap but Trump as having accelerated the demise of capitalism? That makes zero sense

[Zambroski]

Just now, motonoggin said:

capitalism won't last unless everyone sees a significant increase in their paychecks. I don't think any of what Trump is doing is going to bring wages up enough to start tapering back our reliance on debt. 

And that's just the short term issues. Looming technological advances could cut labor requirements in such a fashion that wages' share of aggregate demand will dwindle to nothing. And any short term rise in wages is going to spur that process on. 

Capitalism has a built-in poison pill. It will happen, and IMO Trump will accelerate that. 

Wrong.  Capitalism is fluid. 

But, I admire your spunk!  Wish hard enough and......well, Obama was re elected.  I guess anything might be possible.

[f7ben]

3 minutes ago, Zamjabronie said:

Wrong.  Capitalism is fluid. 

But, I admire your spunk!  Wish hard enough and......well, Obama was re elected.  I guess anything might be possible.

capitalism will indeed be dead in a matter of decades.....technology will dictate that. Capitalism was a good vehicle to create a middle class.......artificial intelligence will kill it faster than it got here

[motonoggin]

1 minute ago, f7ben said:

well how would you have seen Bernie as a stop gap but Trump as having accelerated the demise of capitalism? That makes zero sense

Bernie would have attempted to do something similar to what FDR did with the new deal. The things he wanted to do would have made it easier for the average person to live under capitalism. Bernie would have attempted to slow down and blunt the negative effects of capitalism.

Trump is doing the opposite and loosening the reigns rather than tightening them like Bernie would have. 

[Zambroski]

1 minute ago, f7ben said:

capitalism will indeed be dead in a matter of decades.....technology will dictate that. Capitalism was a good vehicle to create a middle class.......artificial intelligence will kill it faster than it got here

It will adapt.  It always does.

[f7ben]

Just now, motonoggin said:

Bernie would have attempted to do something similar to what FDR did with the new deal. The things he wanted to do would have made it easier for the average person to live under capitalism. Bernie would have attempted to slow down and blunt the negative effects of capitalism.

Trump is doing the opposite and loosening the reigns rather than tightening them like Bernie would have. 

totally wrong.....trumps trade policy is an attempt to rekindle demand driven economics and create real jobs.....not fake government jobs provided by debt

[f7ben]

Just now, Zamjabronie said:

It will adapt.  It always does.

 you are so dumb

[Zambroski]

1 minute ago, f7ben said:

 you are so dumb

Keep hanging on to your little radicalization handbook.  It can be used for ass wipe.

 

[f7ben]

Just now, Zamjabronie said:

Keep hanging on to your little radicalization handbook.  It can be used for ass wipe.

 

did you major in responding to people with completely unrelated content to the discussion being had? Sweet fuck man its easier when you post entire pages and I skip over it. I dont get a real sense of how dumb you are then !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11111  

[Zambroski]

3 minutes ago, f7ben said:

did you major in responding to people with completely unrelated content to the discussion being had? Sweet fuck man its easier when you post entire pages and I skip over it. I dont get a real sense of how dumb you are then !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11111  

Ass wipe.   That’s a funny name.

I just like to pull the Ben-tifa out of you.  It’s entertaining.  Moto used to be then, he got all “whack”.

 

[f7ben]

Just now, Zamjabronie said:

Ass wipe.   That’s a funny name.

I just like to pull the Ben-tifa out of you.  It’s entertaining.  Moto used to be then, he got all “whack”.

 

 

[Ez ryder]

18 minutes ago, motonoggin said:

capitalism won't last unless everyone sees a significant increase in their paychecks. I don't think any of what Trump is doing is going to bring wages up enough to start tapering back our reliance on debt. 

And that's just the short term issues. Looming technological advances could cut labor requirements in such a fashion that wages' share of aggregate demand will dwindle to nothing. And any short term rise in wages is going to spur that process on. 

Capitalism has a built-in poison pill. It will happen, and IMO Trump will accelerate that. 

fucking dream world you live on 

[motonoggin]

1 minute ago, Zamjabronie said:

It will adapt.  It always does.

Wrong. It has already been written. 

1 minute ago, f7ben said:

totally wrong.....trumps trade policy is an attempt to rekindle demand driven economics and create real jobs.....not fake government jobs provided by debt

Of course it is, I don't disagree with you there. I just don't think it's going to be enough.

[Zambroski]

Just now, motonoggin said:

Wrong. It has already been written. 

 

Oh.  Well, then.  It’s settled.  Like science!!!

[motonoggin]

There is a structural flaw in capitalism that any objective observer could see if they cared to. It's got nothing to do with ideology or anything else. 

[jtssrx]

43 minutes ago, f7ben said:

Bernie has voted against the onslaught against our 4th amendment at every step.........that is 10000% more valuable than anything that bootlicking pile of fuck Trump will do. 

Bernie could have reigned in the corrupt US Intel community. Trump just signs laws that give them more power

Bernie should have lost your support when he bent over and took it in the ass and backed Hillary. All the while knowing she litterly stole the nomination. A noble person doesn’t back a person that steals from them. A corrupt dime store politician who is easly bought off does

Edited July 22, 2018 by jtssrx

[motonoggin]

[f7ben]

1 minute ago, jtssrx said:

Bernie should have lost your support when he bent over and took it in the ass and backed Hillary. All the while knowing she litterly stole the nomination. A noble person doesn’t back a person that steals from them. A corrupt dime store politician who is easly bought off does

He did dude....we are speaking in hypotheticals here. I would never back Bernie now

[Anler]

28 minutes ago, f7ben said:

capitalism will indeed be dead in a matter of decades.....technology will dictate that. Capitalism was a good vehicle to create a middle class.......artificial intelligence will kill it faster than it got here

I agree with that. 

[f7ben]

1 minute ago, Nazipigdog said:

I agree with that. 

I fear what will replace it