Girl and the Cover of Time with Trump was never separated from her mother. Yet another media LIE

[Angry ginger]

Just now, ICEMAN! said:

Why would they?  There is better opportunity in the USA, you have laws where you grant asylum to people in these circumstances, and your economy actually needs these people to work.  What’s the problem?  Oh right, they’re brown and Trumptards hate brown people.

We don;t owe them that opportunity, sorry about their luck but they weren't born here.  Catch them and send them home if they are coming in right now is the right thing to do.  The ones who already got here we need to deal with then we can decide who and how many to let in.  I'm fine with giving them a path to visas if they are here and there are no criminal record and the DACA eligible kids should get a path to citizenship given this is the only life i know but we aren't obligated to take anyone in.  Parents who want their kids to escape their lives in mexico and wherever else they can feel free to place them up for adoption to American parents.   

You Canadians can feel free to let these people in if you want,  same opportunity exists to our north.  

[Rigid1]

Just now, ICEMAN! said:

Why would they?  There is better opportunity in the USA, you have laws where you grant asylum to people in these circumstances, and your economy actually needs these people to work.  What’s the problem?  Oh right, they’re brown and Trumptards hate brown people.

what are you talking about?! we have a Nazi for a president who is keeping people in concentration camps, taking children, raping and abusing them, our murder rate is crazy,  mexicos is better, we all have guns here and are ready to shoot anyone, our schools are death zones and shot up daily. mean while they just stroll through mexico, weather they are used too, no snow, plenty of produce farms for them to work right?? thats where we get all our veggies from. you know the trade deal... I mean WTF, You bash the USA 30 times a day, but dont want them to stay in Mexico?? something aint right there..

 

Or maybe we should bus them up to Canada, you guys want 10k+ kids with no parents?? we could drop them off right in Ontario easy peasy

[Momorider]

[Momorider]

34 minutes ago, ICEMAN! said:

They’re desperate and fleeing violence.  The government should have had a plan before they separated them.  It’s Hurricane Katrina level incompetence

 Mexico is not an asylum eligible country they are fleeing a shitty economy and will be sent back

[NaturallyAspirated]

27 minutes ago, Rigid1 said:

getting your children taken away is better??

For some perhaps.  Why don't we make it so that they can get better, and without having their kids taken away? 

Neal

[Rigid1]

5 minutes ago, NaturallyAspirated said:

For some perhaps.  Why don't we make it so that they can get better, and without having their kids taken away? 

Neal

I dont get why they dont stay in Mexico

[Momorider]

So in summary....

- The mother and child were NOT separated

- The mother had already been deported in 2013

- Her motives for illegally entering U.S. were economic

- Father said what she did was "irresponsible"

- She abandoned three other children

- She used a smuggler

And the media lied about the whole thing.

[Snake]

33 minutes ago, Rigid1 said:

I dont get why they dont stay in Mexico

3rd world shit hole.

[NaturallyAspirated]

1 hour ago, Rigid1 said:

I dont get why they dont stay in Mexico

I see that.

Neal

[snopro31]

6 hours ago, ICEMAN! said:

What’s the plan for reuniting the families?

LMAO.

Deflecting from the others that put kids in cages.

 

 

[Mileage Psycho]

7 hours ago, jtssrx said:

 

It's called artistic license, in any event it's quite a powerful pic that demonstrates the anguish young children have when separated from a parent.

There is good video at the link that has an interview with the border patrol agent Ruiz

 

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Border agent involved with dramatic photo of crying girl breaks silence

The picture of a Honduran girl crying as she and her mother are detained in Texas has grabbed worldwide attention and come to symbolize the intense debate about separating children from their parents.

Time magazine put the young girl on this week's cover, but the Border Patrol agent involved in the dramatic scene says the photo might be a little misleading. That agent said the mother and daughter were never separated and are still together. 

"We were patrolling the border. It was after 10 o'clock at night," Border Patrol agent Carlos Ruiz told CBS News' David Begnaud.

He was the first to encounter Sandra Sanchez and her daughter after they allegedly crossed the Rio Grande River into Texas illegally.

"We asked her to set the kid down in front of her, not away from her, she was right in front of her...So we can properly search the mother," Ruiz said. "So the kid immediately started crying as she set her down. I personally went up to the mother and asked her 'Are you doing OK? Is the kid OK?' and she said, 'Yes. She's tired and thirsty. It's 11 o'clock at night.'"

Getty photographer John Moore joined Ruiz for a nearly nine-hour ride along on the border. He was just feet away from Sanchez and her daughter.

"When I took this picture, I knew it would be important. I had no way of knowing that it would touch people quite on the level that it has," Moore said. "I asked her how long she'd been traveling, and she gave me this very weary look, and she said she'd been on the road with her daughter for a month…. Imagine doing that with children. It's almost impossible to imagine, actually."

Moore's image is now on the cover of Time magazine next to a picture of President Trump. 

"They're using it to symbolize a policy and that was not the case in this picture," Ruiz said. "It took less than two minutes. As soon as the search was finished, she immediately picked the girl up, and the girl immediately stopped crying." 

Moore says Ruiz and other agents acted professionally that night. But he is happy with the cover and the response to the image.

"Oftentimes, immigration is talked about in terms of statistics, and when you put a human face and humanize an issue, you make people feel. And when you make people feel, they have compassion. And if I've done just a little bit of that, then that's OK," Moore said.

Ruiz said he and his fellow agents represent more than just the Border Patrol logo. 

"We are also fathers, we are also sons, we are also have families, and we do care, and we do our jobs, and we treat these people as humanely and as best as we possibly can," Ruiz said.

Sandra Sanchez and her daughter were arrested on June 10 and are still detained, so Sanchez has not been able to respond to any of this. According to U.S. Border Patrol, they were only in their custody for 72 hours and were then turned over to Health and Human Services. It's unclear where Sanchez and her daughter are now. 

The photo has reached the young girl's father in Honduras. He told Univision it broke his heart and that he hoped his wife and daughter's rights were respected. 

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/border-agent-involved-with-dramatic-photo-of-crying-girl-breaks-silence/ar-AAz0g88

 

 

[Sal Rosenberg]

25 minutes ago, Mileage Psycho said:

It's called artistic license, in any event it's quite a powerful pic that demonstrates the anguish young children have when separated from a parent.

There is good video at the link that has an interview with the border patrol agent Ruiz

 

 

 

It's called misleading and food for thought for people without thought .

 

[jtssrx]

59 minutes ago, Mileage Psycho said:

It's called artistic license, in any event it's quite a powerful pic that demonstrates the anguish young children have when separated from a parent.

There is good video at the link that has an interview with the border patrol agent Ruiz

 

 

No it’s called a bullshit Manipulation of the truth to twist the minds of the American people

[Sal Rosenberg]

4 hours ago, ICEMAN! said:

Why would they?  There is better opportunity in the USA, you have laws where you grant asylum to people in these circumstances, and your economy actually needs these people to work.  What’s the problem?  Oh right, they’re brown and Trumptards hate brown people.

 

[Snake]

 

[Snake]

Edited June 22, 2018 by Snake

[steve from amherst]

4 hours ago, Rigid1 said:

I dont get why they dont stay in Mexico

Because its a crime infested shithole. Just like the hood most will live in in this country.

[Mileage Psycho]

1 hour ago, Sal Rosenberg said:

 

It's called misleading and food for thought for people without thought .

 

 

38 minutes ago, jtssrx said:

No it’s called a bullshit Manipulation of the truth to twist the minds of the American people

The picture depicts what happens when you separate a child unwilling from a parent, and there is no denying that.

[Whiskey Tango Foxtrot]

26 minutes ago, Mileage Psycho said:

 

The picture depicts what happens when you separate a child unwilling from a parent, and there is no denying that.

Read 7 posts up. The photographer said they weren't being separated at the time the picture was taken. Nobody wants to see children cry, yet hundreds on a daily basis ball their eyes out waiting in line at Disney Land. It was a bullshit political ploy, that everyone caught. Epic fail. 

[XC.Morrison]

Didn’t have time to read all 4 pages of this nonsense but from skimming over this appears to be the logical formula that the trumpeters are trying to compute:

This one particular image depicts a child whose circumstances aren’t identical to the hundreds of others, therefore she in no way represents them, and if she doesn’t represent them, then none of it happened, and to top it off the media = fake.

The media weren’t allowed to photograph inside the holding facilities.  They improvised.  The end. Next.

[Snake]

[Kevin]

2 hours ago, Mileage Psycho said:

 

The picture depicts what happens when you separate a child unwilling from a parent, and there is no denying that.

Very true... for the weak minded and uninformed.

[ICEMAN!]

3 hours ago, Mileage Psycho said:

Sandra Sanchez and her daughter were arrested on June 10 and are still detained, so Sanchez has not been able to respond to any of this. According to U.S. Border Patrol, they were only in their custody for 72 hours and were then turned over to Health and Human Services. It's unclear where Sanchez and her daughter are now. 

So if she crossed the border illegally on June 10 while the zero tolerance policy was still in place, who’s to say they weren’t actually separated AFTER that picture was taken?  It stands to reason that they were separated and still are.

[hayward]

16 minutes ago, ICEMAN! said:

So if she crossed the border illegally on June 10 while the zero tolerance policy was still in place, who’s to say they weren’t actually separated AFTER that picture was taken?  It stands to reason that they were separated and still are.

such a pessimist...... fricken a get a damn grip already.  And hike up your skirt while you're at it.

[hayward]

2 hours ago, Mileage Psycho said:

 

The picture depicts what happens when you separate a child unwilling from a parent, and there is no denying that.

Well i'll be damned, you really are a fucking genius!  Who'd a thunk it?  A crying kid wanting to be held by it's mommy.  Seen up and down nearly every isle in any Wal-Mart from here to California and back on any give day at any given time......