Rod Posted May 4, 2018 Share Posted May 4, 2018 1 hour ago, spin_dry said: Good point. One invests in future technologies while the other invests in the downward death spiral of worker’s wages, while enriching 7 members of the Walton family that are now worth $145 billion. As long as there’s welfare, somebody will profit off it. That’s how it works Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ez ryder Posted May 4, 2018 Share Posted May 4, 2018 (edited) no just stating facts . at least musk did better than that job creating monster we had to toss pallets of cash at solyndra for the good of the planet and economy Edited May 4, 2018 by Ez ryder Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold Member BOHICA Posted May 4, 2018 Author Gold Member Share Posted May 4, 2018 24 minutes ago, Nazipigdog said: So why excuse walmart for being douchebags but condemn musk for putting up his own money to start a new innovative business that likes to fuck workers too? Cause there are are few here that want to bare Elon’s baby..... Tesla has been a ponzi scheme from the get go and makes Madoff look like a rookie when it comes to fucking people out of money.. they will soon run out of the federal tax credit.... prolly this quarter and with that they are fucked. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anler Posted May 4, 2018 Share Posted May 4, 2018 Just now, BOHICA said: Cause there are are few here that want to bare Elon’s baby..... Tesla has been a ponzi scheme from the get go and makes Madoff look like a rookie when it comes to fucking people out of money.. they will soon run out of the federal tax credit.... prolly this quarter and with that they are fucked. Sending $35 billion in aid to foreign govts, is good. $2.1 trillion in offshored profits to avoid taxation is good. EXTRA $60 billion in military spending is good. Money for US technology advancement is bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ez ryder Posted May 4, 2018 Share Posted May 4, 2018 9 minutes ago, Nazipigdog said: Sending $35 billion in aid to foreign govts, is good. $2.1 trillion in offshored profits to avoid taxation is good. EXTRA $60 billion in military spending is good. Money for US technology advancement is bad. well lets see you want to tax the evil rich but are completely on board subsidising there luxery cars that no one in middle America can afford to buy even with the government paying for 1/3 of it . ok got it. not sure why it was so unclear to me before 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jammin Posted May 4, 2018 Share Posted May 4, 2018 2 hours ago, Angry ginger said: Tesla is a sham as a business. You firmly believe this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anler Posted May 4, 2018 Share Posted May 4, 2018 8 minutes ago, Ez ryder said: well lets see you want to tax the evil rich but are completely on board subsidising there luxery cars that no one in middle America can afford to buy even with the government paying for 1/3 of it . ok got it. not sure why it was so unclear to me before How about we stop spending ourselves down the s****** giving all her money away to assholes? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ez ryder Posted May 4, 2018 Share Posted May 4, 2018 5 minutes ago, jammin said: You firmly believe this? pt Barnum on steroieds Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ez ryder Posted May 4, 2018 Share Posted May 4, 2018 Just now, Nazipigdog said: How about we stop spending ourselves down the s****** giving all her money away to assholes? again I have stated o we and over I am all for a 25% cut to ALL spending to start . then we start making real cuts . then after we have zero debt and our shit at home is in order do we start looking in to discretionary spending like helping some shit hole that just got trashed by a storm a short tearm loan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spin_dry Posted May 4, 2018 Share Posted May 4, 2018 1 hour ago, BOHICA said: He forces overtime, some unpaid, won’t take care of workers injured on the job and expects those workers to shut up.... he is anti union. He is every bit as bad as the waltons if not worse as he is not profitable but not only fleeces his workers but fleeces tax payers You seem to have your facts wrong. The CEO gets high marks from workers. I’d give a week’s pay to spend a day shadowing Musk. https://www.indeed.com/cmp/Tesla-Motors/reviews Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiSledder Posted May 4, 2018 Share Posted May 4, 2018 4 hours ago, Jimmy Snacks said: You can leave too Lily just like your fuckhead buddy Dripper. Make me fat fuck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Jimmy Snacks Posted May 4, 2018 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted May 4, 2018 4 minutes ago, MiSledder said: Make me fat fuck Oh look....it's Dumb Dutch AMG.....awesome! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NaturallyAspirated Posted May 4, 2018 Share Posted May 4, 2018 5 hours ago, racer254 said: It's interesting for people to complain about Walmart costing taxpayers, but say it's ok to subsidize Tesla What industry isn't subsidized? Neal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racinfarmer Posted May 4, 2018 Share Posted May 4, 2018 4 hours ago, BOHICA said: Cause there are are few here that want to bare Elon’s baby..... Tesla has been a ponzi scheme from the get go and makes Madoff look like a rookie when it comes to fucking people out of money.. they will soon run out of the federal tax credit.... prolly this quarter and with that they are fucked. Their biggest problem is going to be what happens when their competition, who actually knows how to manufacture cars and has a much larger dealer network, comes online. I'd have to go to the Twin Cities to get to the Tesla dealer, 60 minutes away. The VW or Subaru dealer are 6. And start reading up on actually servicing and repairing a Tesla. Or check insurance. Just wait until you have a car unsupported by them! 3 hours ago, jammin said: You firmly believe this? More like the Simpson's Monorail salesman. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F3600 Posted May 4, 2018 Share Posted May 4, 2018 Nothing wrong with subsidizing technology development but Musk has been on the gravy train a long time and still can't manufacture at a profit. Volumes on the S and X are too low to recoup development and the model 3 which was billed as affordable to the common man also hasn't been able to produce at a volume needed to supply initial demand and has jumped in price and still sells at a loss. Musk made himself rich and probably had honest intentions in the beginning but got corrupted by Wall St. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted May 5, 2018 Share Posted May 5, 2018 Electric has a long ways to go yet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted May 5, 2018 Share Posted May 5, 2018 Just now, Rod Johnson said: Electric has a long ways to go yet Literally... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spin_dry Posted May 5, 2018 Share Posted May 5, 2018 14 minutes ago, Rod Johnson said: Electric has a long ways to go yet Bmw will be there first. They’re on the way to producing a cell that’s 40% more energy dense than anything currently available. They’re way ahead of everyone else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted May 5, 2018 Share Posted May 5, 2018 10 minutes ago, spin_dry said: Bmw will be there first. They’re on the way to producing a cell that’s 40% more energy dense than anything currently available. They’re way ahead of everyone else. That would be a good start. Then make it charge in 5 minutes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DriftBusta Posted May 5, 2018 Share Posted May 5, 2018 Some of you guys oughta be stock analysts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Momorider Posted May 5, 2018 Share Posted May 5, 2018 1 minute ago, DriftBusta said: Some of you guys oughta be stock analysts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rw06GT Posted May 5, 2018 Share Posted May 5, 2018 8 hours ago, spin_dry said: Bmw will be there first. They’re on the way to producing a cell that’s 40% more energy dense than anything currently available. They’re way ahead of everyone else. Automaker BMW is chasing that solid-state battery tech carrot, same as most everyone else in the industry. BMW expects that around 2026 it will be able to introduce radically improved batteries – of the solid-state variety, which differ from the conventional lithium-ion cells of today by having solid electrolyte in place of liquid electrolytes. There is still apparently some 10 more years needed to finish research and test durability prior to commercialization (holy cats!), which naturally gives us a healthy dose of skepticism. According to the article, new solid-state batteries to have many advantages: 15-20% increase in capacity less weight reduction in the amount of safety protection needed due to the reduced fire risk the packaging and housing of the batteries to be simplified In other words, new solid-state batteries will allow more energy in unit of weight. With all that said, and to take nothing away from the 15-20% gain in capacity – which sounds great, almost no one looking for a new plug-in vehicle has uttered the statement “man, I wish these batteries were just a touch denser,” generally the consensus is that consumers just want their EVs cheaper and to go further, and if that means adding an extra 100lbs, or stealing an extra cu ft or two under the floorboards…then so be it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anler Posted May 5, 2018 Share Posted May 5, 2018 19 hours ago, Jimmy Snacks said: You can leave too Lily just like your fuckhead buddy Dripper. What's with all of these Michigan assholes, Jimmy? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anler Posted May 5, 2018 Share Posted May 5, 2018 I think this might be my new work car. The new hybrid. https://automobiles.honda.com/accord-sedan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ez ryder Posted May 5, 2018 Share Posted May 5, 2018 (edited) 14 hours ago, racinfarmer said: Their biggest problem is going to be what happens when their competition, who actually knows how to manufacture cars and has a much larger dealer network, comes online. I'd have to go to the Twin Cities to get to the Tesla dealer, 60 minutes away. The VW or Subaru dealer are 6. And start reading up on actually servicing and repairing a Tesla. Or check insurance. Just wait until you have a car unsupported by them! More like the Simpson's Monorail salesman. not only that you buy one and chances are real good you will not be able to charge it from your home until you have new service run to your home and a spark guy to hook it up . yeah the tesla dealer is a joke in Minneapolis in a old office building off 100 no serive department .have to sceduale a test drive then waite 2 mo to a yr to get a car lol good luck with that my electrition is on tesla preferd list and is laughing all the way to the bank over 1/2 of these,people need new service all are desperate to get a charger and will pay what it takes to get it done that week Edited May 5, 2018 by Ez ryder Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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