Platinum Contributing Member SnowRider Posted March 5, 2018 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted March 5, 2018 Typical Dump Klan and more both sides are the same from the forums spineless fucks like @motonoggin @SSFB @NaturallyAspirated Trump Administration Aims to Gut Clean Water Standards to Help Out Coal Power Plants The Environmental Protection Agency announced on Thursday it will scrap Obama-era rules governing coal ash disposal. The changes would provide companies with annual compliance cost savings of up to $100 million, but environmentalists warn that doing away with the regulations risks poisoning clean drinking water for millions of Americans and pollute already-endangered ecosystems. The changes would extend how long the over 400 coal-fired power plants across the country can maintain unlined coal ash ponds and allow states to determine how frequently they would test disposal sites for groundwater contamination. EPA Administrator Scott Pruitt championed the rule changes as a way of promoting federalism. Trending: After Florida Shooting, Former Attorney General Says He Regrets Making 'Devil's Bargain' With The NRA “Today’s coal ash proposal embodies EPA’s commitment to our state partners by providing them with the ability to incorporate flexibilities into their coal ash permit programs based on the needs of their states,” Pruitt said in a statement announcing the changes. Pruitt went on to boast that the proposed changes "would save the regulated community between $31 million and $100 million per year." But as pointed out by Alexander C. Kaufman and Chris D’Angelo of the HuffPost, Pruitt's announcement failed to mention the risks coal ash poses to human health and the environment. Don't miss: Jennifer Garner Has Apparent Epiphany at Oscars, Becomes Viral Meme “This is the second biggest toxic pollution threat in our country, and we need to clean it up—not make things easier for polluters,” Earthjustice attorney Lisa Evans said in a statement. “People living near more than a thousand toxic coal ash sites are at risk. They face contaminated drinking water, toxic dust in the air, and serious health threats just because the EPA is choosing to side with polluters over the public.” President Donald Trump listens while EPA chief Scott Pruitt speaks after announcing the US will withdraw from the Paris accord in the Rose Garden of the White House June 1, 2017 in Washington, DC. On Thursday, Pruitt announced the watchdog agency would loosen its clean water standards for coal ash disposal. Getty Images According to the EPA, coal-fired power plants in the United States produce around 140 million tons of coal ash per year. The waste is usually started in wet ponds, almost half of which operate without liners and other safeguards meant to prevent chemicals from seeping into groundwater. Multiple scientific studies have demonstrated that coal ash—which contains carcinogenic substances like arsenic, lead, and selenium—has a demonstrable adverse effect on surrounding communities and the environment. An EPA study from 2010 showed that "people living within one mile of unlined coal ash ponds can have a 1 in 50 risk of cancer—more than 2,000 times higher than what the EPA considers acceptable," as cited by Sierra Club. The study also shows that living within a mile of a wet coal ash storage pond is as hazardous as smoking a pack of cigarettes a day. Most popular: Apple Employees Call 911 After Walking Into Glass Walls Particularly at risk are the over 1.5 million children who live near coal ash disposal sites across the country, as coal ash has been shown to increase the risk of children developing learning disabilities, birth defects, asthma, and cancer. Many industry trade groups have come out in support of the changes, celebrating Pruitt's role in lessening the federal government's role in overseeing coal-fired power plants. “The proposed rule will provide states and the industry with greater certainty as they work to close ash basins safely and responsibly and continue to manage other ash management facilities such as landfills,” Quin Shea, the vice president for environment at the industry trade group Edison Electric Institute, told The Washington Post in a statement. Frank Holleman, a senior lawyer at the Southern Environmental Law Center, countered by highlighting the dangers posed by coal ash and decried the administration's efforts to protect Americans from carcinogen. “Coal ash is polluting rivers, lakes and wells across America, but President Trump’s EPA is trying to weaken the standards that are supposed to protect Americans from this toxic threat,” Holleman said in a statement. “These proposals will weaken rules that protect our groundwater from arsenic and mercury and continue to extend the use of unlined, leaking coal ash pits next to our waterways. America’s families and clean water deserve better.” The EPA said it will accept public comment on the proposed changes for 45 days. It then “plans to move quickly to take final action after the close of the comment period.” https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-administration-aims-gut-clean-222203128.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mainecat Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 Coal and steel....lol what next horse and buggy’s. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NaturallyAspirated Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 Humans are a virus. We will pollute and damage the host untill it can no longer sustain us. Neal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold Member BOHICA Posted March 5, 2018 Gold Member Share Posted March 5, 2018 To bad muellers got nothing...... or dragging his feet. All this tick tocking by the left is allowing trump to hit everything that the lefts claims to cherish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member SnowRider Posted March 5, 2018 Author Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted March 5, 2018 5 minutes ago, NaturallyAspirated said: Humans are a virus. We will pollute and damage the host untill it can no longer sustain us. Neal Why not roll back all environmental regulation.... Why prolong the inevitable..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zambroski Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 I love these recrutiting threads by the liberal idiots. "It's the stupid and idiot and retard and dummy third party voters that screwed Hillary!! You're all stooopid!!!!! WIll you guys please join us....please?" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSFB Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 Rent free in Toolkit's mind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hwytohell Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 (edited) Maybe some should show some personal leadership, sell their snowmobiles , ride a bicycle to work year round , only use public transportation or walk , move into the smallest home that is green user rated , plant a backyard garden and only use water that is supplied by mother nature. Edited March 5, 2018 by hwytohell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zambroski Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 21 minutes ago, SSFB said: Rent free in Toolkit's mind. Don't touch anything and limit breathing as you find a way out. Door is on the left behind the huge shit pile. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member steve from amherst Posted March 5, 2018 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted March 5, 2018 But unless natural gas skyrockets it is irrelevant as natural gas produces more electricity. It may keep a couple of dinosours running a few extra yrs , but that's about all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motonoggin Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oleroule Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 (edited) how much power do stadium lights use? Edited March 5, 2018 by oleroule Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 3 hours ago, Mainecat said: Coal and steel....lol what next horse and buggy’s. Says the fucking retard working in the paper and print industry 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xtralettucetomatoe580 Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 4 minutes ago, f7ben said: Says the fucking retard working in the paper and print industry Lolol good point. Ouch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snoslinger Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 17 minutes ago, xtralettucetomatoe580 said: Lolol good point. Ouch. not really. MC is retired, then there's the fact that the paper and print industry isn't anywhere near dead Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Jimmy Snacks Posted March 5, 2018 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted March 5, 2018 3 minutes ago, Snoslinger said: not really. MC is retired, then there's the fact that the paper and print industry isn't anywhere near dead Hmmmm... https://www.ibisworld.com/industry-trends/market-research-reports/manufacturing/printing-related-support-activities/printing.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snoslinger Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 hmmmmmmmmmmmm https://www.mimeo.com/blog/print-industry-growth-and-innovation/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snoslinger Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 I still see all kinds of printed paper - the damn junk mail that comes daily, magazines, brochures in dr office, books, blow up doll directions...... while the internets and digital have put a damper on things, it's far from over. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member steve from amherst Posted March 5, 2018 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted March 5, 2018 It is far from over, but it's definatly on its way down. Especially northern mills. My wife works in the magazine industry and numbers are consistently down every year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xtralettucetomatoe580 Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 35 minutes ago, Snoslinger said: not really. MC is retired, then there's the fact that the paper and print industry isn't anywhere near dead Lol... I work in print... The point is they are old industries that are not at their peak. They aren’t expanding. Print is consolidating. Less jobs, more automating, smaller margins. Good for someone properly positioned like us, but the industry as a whole is not going to have some Renaissance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JEFF Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 Maybe the phone books will make a huge comeback? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 Slinger sees magazines and newspapers but not anything made with coal or steel dumbest motherfucker on the site Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member SnowRider Posted March 5, 2018 Author Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted March 5, 2018 13 minutes ago, f7ben said: Slinger sees magazines and newspapers but not anything made with coal or steel dumbest motherfucker on the site You need another hand out to survive and compete..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hayward Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 1 hour ago, Snoslinger said: I still see all kinds of printed paper - the damn junk mail that comes daily, magazines, brochures in dr office, books, blow up doll directions...... while the internets and digital have put a damper on things, it's far from over. whatcha' been reading Slinger? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 6 minutes ago, SnowRider said: You need another hand out to survive and compete..... Nope....we need our government to place the same burdens on imports as it does on us. Or do you support importing products made with slave labor and horrendous environmental impacts. Also go fuck yourself you 2 digit iq mouth breathing fucking moron. You aren't qualified to flip burgers let alone comment on anything tougher than changing a fuse. "Toolkit" 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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