revrnd Posted July 16, 2018 Share Posted July 16, 2018 In Ontario I wonder what percentage of EV sales were low end models like the Leaf & Bolt vs the high end Teslas? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1trailmaker Posted July 16, 2018 Share Posted July 16, 2018 10 minutes ago, revrnd said: In Ontario I wonder what percentage of EV sales were low end models like the Leaf & Bolt vs the high end Teslas? These days its hard to tell, payments of 600 or 900 a month over 8 years is nothing it seems - lots of money in Toronto For Teslas they will just move on and forget Ontario if sales and support drop smaller cars will sell still, lots of people care about pollution (car barely pollutes today thanks to regulations) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sksman Posted July 16, 2018 Share Posted July 16, 2018 Here Fail. Read this. https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/tesla-electric-car-incentive-end-1.4747325 So is $14,000 roughly 33% of a car? Come on know it all answer the question! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1trailmaker Posted July 16, 2018 Share Posted July 16, 2018 57 minutes ago, Sksman said: So if a Tesla 3 or whatever the name cost $45,000 to buy and the purchaser was promised a $14,000 grant how many percent of the purchase price is that oh rocket scientist Failmaker? Pretty close to 33% ? Just admit you are no clue Failmaker and move on. I was saying it isn't a blanket 33% or whatever it works out too and you are not getting a tesla for 45k maybe 65k all in. here is the qualified car and rebate for Ontario http://www.mto.gov.on.ca/english/vehicles/electric/electric-vehicle-rebate.shtml Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1trailmaker Posted July 16, 2018 Share Posted July 16, 2018 1 hour ago, ArcticCrusher said: So Doug protests are starting. Funny girl in first photo looks like a cousin who said she wound protest Doug at every chance. 50 supported by dad up until now, typical Doug protester. https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/ford-protest-1.4747246 All Doug has to do is nothing and they will go away Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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1trailmaker Posted July 16, 2018 Share Posted July 16, 2018 16 hours ago, ArcticCrusher said: Doug needs to scrap the freeloader charge stations as well. Make them pay. I think that is over too, gone is that business Dealerships aren't going to be happy http://www.mto.gov.on.ca/english/vehicles/electric/electric-vehicle-incentive-program.shtml July 11, 2018 On July 3, 2018, Ontario cancelled the cap and trade program as part of its commitment to bring gas prices down by 10 cents a litre and help reduce costs for Ontario families and businesses by $1.9 billion dollars per year. Given the Electric and Hydrogen Vehicle Incentive Program and the Electric Vehicle Charging Incentive Programs are funded through cap-and-trade proceeds, these programs are cancelled. Applications will be accepted from dealerships, car owners or prospective car owners only if one of the following conditions has been met: Eligible vehicles that have been delivered to consumers, registered, and plated on or before July 11 will receive the incentive. Inventory that dealers have on lots or orders made by dealerships with manufacturers on or before July 11, will also be honoured for the incentive provided that the vehicle is delivered to consumers, registered, and plated by September 10. In addition, the Electric Vehicle Charging Incentive Program is cancelled effective July 11. Charging stations purchased and/or installed before this date will be eligible to receive incentives if the application is submitted within 60 days of July 11. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sksman Posted July 16, 2018 Share Posted July 16, 2018 11 hours ago, 1trailmaker said: I was saying it isn't a blanket 33% or whatever it works out too and you are not getting a tesla for 45k maybe 65k all in. here is the qualified car and rebate for Ontario http://www.mto.gov.on.ca/english/vehicles/electric/electric-vehicle-rebate.shtml The base Tesla lists for $45,600. Are you telling me that $14,000 is not roughly 33% of $45,600? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1trailmaker Posted July 16, 2018 Share Posted July 16, 2018 5 minutes ago, Sksman said: The base Tesla lists for $45,600. Are you telling me that $14,000 is not roughly 33% of $45,600? its almost impossible to get a base car at advertised price even so add 13% plus delivery, plus plus - that base 45k turns into 55k pretty quick Either way this business is going to suffer in Ontario Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcticCrusher Posted July 16, 2018 Share Posted July 16, 2018 1 hour ago, 1trailmaker said: its almost impossible to get a base car at advertised price even so add 13% plus delivery, plus plus - that base 45k turns into 55k pretty quick Either way this business is going to suffer in Ontario Nobody buys cars for list. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dirtybeacher Posted July 16, 2018 Share Posted July 16, 2018 20 minutes ago, ArcticCrusher said: Nobody buys cars for list. The government does. 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
revrnd Posted July 16, 2018 Share Posted July 16, 2018 1 hour ago, 1trailmaker said: its almost impossible to get a base car at advertised price even so add 13% plus delivery, plus plus - that base 45k turns into 55k pretty quick Either way this business is going to suffer in Ontario I doubt the Chev & Nissan dealers were carrying many of these EVs on their lots. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1trailmaker Posted July 16, 2018 Share Posted July 16, 2018 1 hour ago, ArcticCrusher said: Nobody buys cars for list. ad in the Sun for a 4x4 31k you walk out at 48k base cars and trucks really aren't available - possible to order one but how often does that happen everyone gets the best deal just ask any dealer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1trailmaker Posted July 16, 2018 Share Posted July 16, 2018 37 minutes ago, revrnd said: I doubt the Chev & Nissan dealers were carrying many of these EVs on their lots. in Apsley I doubt it but Downtown Toronto mgiht have several Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcticCrusher Posted July 16, 2018 Share Posted July 16, 2018 7 minutes ago, 1trailmaker said: ad in the Sun for a 4x4 31k you walk out at 48k base cars and trucks really aren't available - possible to order one but how often does that happen everyone gets the best deal just ask any dealer What would you know about buying a new car? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1trailmaker Posted July 16, 2018 Share Posted July 16, 2018 1 minute ago, ArcticCrusher said: What would you know about buying a new car? I don't buy them anymore too many good used deals and I have no money Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcticCrusher Posted July 16, 2018 Share Posted July 16, 2018 8 minutes ago, 1trailmaker said: I don't buy them anymore too many good used deals and I have no money Exactly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
revrnd Posted July 16, 2018 Share Posted July 16, 2018 1 hour ago, 1trailmaker said: in Apsley I doubt it but Downtown Toronto mgiht have several Boyers closed up shop here back around '06. Bancroft or Ptbo for the nearest dealers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
revrnd Posted July 16, 2018 Share Posted July 16, 2018 Does Ford or FCA offer any all electric vehicles? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1trailmaker Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 Looks like Doug had someone read him the sed-ex liberal plan, wow some good stuff here lets keep it Silent Doug plan nope no plan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Momorider Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 On July 15, 2018 at 12:01 PM, 1trailmaker said: 2003: The transmission grid is old, fragile, and composed of aging generation plants and coal stations causing air pollution. This poor infrastructure results in a blackout, which rolls through eastern Ontario in the summer. The government promises to strengthen the system. 2004: Electricity Restructuring Act is passed, aiming to reinvigorate the province’s electricity sector in order to encourage new electricity supply, promote energy conservation, and provide stable prices at a level reflecting the true cost of electricity. 2004: Ontario Power Authority (OPA), an independent non-profit corporation, is established and charged with assessing the long-term adequacy of electricity resources, forecasting and managing demand, achieving targets set by government for conservation and renewable energy, and preparing an integrated electricity system plan. Included in its mandate is facilitating the removal of coal in the province’s energy supply mix. sorry MoMoNoNothing WRONG AGAIN FAIL sucking leftard propoganda cock like it was his last meal what a gullible shitforbrains Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1trailmaker Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 anyone see question period yesterday Why does Lisa yell so much? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1trailmaker Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 we are going to teach the 2014 sex-ed Question is that the same as 1998 Mr Ford? we are going to ask every parent too funny because 1998 sounds to far away so lest use 2014 instead - go Doug go Slogan Man didn't answer one question but did spew FOLKS and SLOGANS over and over again - sad Doug is such an idiot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1trailmaker Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 Audit leaders to be paid 50k each for 40 days work including weekends all good in SLOGAN ONTARIO Conclusion of Audit = nothing What does the Auditor General do Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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