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#1 classic

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Posted 08 March 2013 - 11:54 AM

Anybody know why they stopped grooming around Walkerton? Haven't groomed since last week.

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Posted 08 March 2013 - 12:09 PM

Anybody know why they stopped grooming around Walkerton? Haven't groomed since last week.


Give you three guesses. First two don't count.

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Posted 08 March 2013 - 12:18 PM

bad water :dunno:

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Posted 08 March 2013 - 12:20 PM

Anybody know why they stopped grooming around Walkerton? Haven't groomed since last week.


I was in Walkerton on Saturday, it was great?

It's likely too warm.
When the snow gets warm and slushy/granular grooming usually results in balling up the snow. Makes a big mess, maybe you've seen it..big snow or ice balls on the side of the trail?
I don't think we've been able to groom since it warmed up mid week.
If it gets cold enogh we will continue to groom.
Walkerton is likely in the same boat.

Edited by vooodooo, 08 March 2013 - 12:22 PM.


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Posted 08 March 2013 - 01:06 PM

I was in Walkerton on Saturday, it was great?

It's likely too warm.
When the snow gets warm and slushy/granular grooming usually results in balling up the snow. Makes a big mess, maybe you've seen it..big snow or ice balls on the side of the trail?
I don't think we've been able to groom since it warmed up mid week.
If it gets cold enogh we will continue to groom.
Walkerton is likely in the same boat.


Also the grromer tracks dig right through the base when it its warm.

#6 classic

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Posted 08 March 2013 - 03:53 PM

I was in Walkerton on Saturday, it was great?

It's likely too warm.
When the snow gets warm and slushy/granular grooming usually results in balling up the snow. Makes a big mess, maybe you've seen it..big snow or ice balls on the side of the trail?
I don't think we've been able to groom since it warmed up mid week.
If it gets cold enogh we will continue to groom.
Walkerton is likely in the same boat.

Oh I understand grooming completely. But it's been below freezing every night and clubs around are still at it.

#7 lbd

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Posted 09 March 2013 - 12:16 AM

Oh I understand grooming completely. But it's been below freezing every night and clubs around are still at it.



The type of drag being used may have a bit to do with it as well.

Some drags stop rolling the snow at around -3 or even a bit colder while others can roll the snow at +1 or +2 degrees still.

Seems like the Mogal Master works the best for us up here in Sudbury when it comes to the warm weather.

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Posted 09 March 2013 - 06:57 AM

Rode from Blythe to Sauble beach and back yesterday. in the 240 miles yesterday, about half of The clubs have been grooming. That being said, the snow was so soft i doubt it would only made a difference in the first 10 sleds or so. You're tails were nice again VOOODOOO. :beer_cheers:

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Posted 09 March 2013 - 07:49 AM

The type of drag being used may have a bit to do with it as well.

Some drags stop rolling the snow at around -3 or even a bit colder while others can roll the snow at +1 or +2 degrees still.

Seems like the Mogal Master works the best for us up here in Sudbury when it comes to the warm weather.


I was through Arthur yesterday and I came across 2 places where the groomer had to dump the snow from the drag. I don't know anything about grooming but I would assume this was done because of the weight.

Mount Forest had groomed in the early morning hours but since it didn't see much cold, it was destroyed by the first few sleds that rode through. Where the groomer had to cut a tight corner there were 1 foot round slush balls sitting at the edge of the trail.


I wouldn't criticize any clubs action this week. Warm temps, available operators, grooming window, available funds. Balance all that against what results can be achieved.

Edited by Blackstar, 09 March 2013 - 07:52 AM.


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Posted 09 March 2013 - 05:06 PM

Still been grooming from seaforth to wingham,but people who ride during warm part of day chew it up real quick,been on afternoons this week and rode 100ish km every morning before 11am on fresh groomed trails.Awesome job B&W trailblazers :beer_cheers:

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Posted 09 March 2013 - 05:15 PM

We were out on the soft trails today, I must haver watched about 20 morons trench the trail by putting it to the bar from a standstill, leavining a nice pile of snow that would flip a sled once it freezes...these are the same idiots that wonder why the trails are all fucked up.

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Posted 09 March 2013 - 06:39 PM

Zoso saw you and your daughter heading norht on the lake from rocky's but didn't realize it was you till it was to late

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Posted 09 March 2013 - 06:50 PM

Zoso saw you and your daughter heading norht on the lake from rocky's but didn't realize it was you till it was to late



Trails were nice today, as was the lake. I thought it was you guys, I think I recognized lorrie's seld after i had noticed what i thought may have been you.:beer_cheers:

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Posted 10 March 2013 - 11:36 PM

I was through Arthur yesterday and I came across 2 places where the groomer had to dump the snow from the drag. I don't know anything about grooming but I would assume this was done because of the weight.

Mount Forest had groomed in the early morning hours but since it didn't see much cold, it was destroyed by the first few sleds that rode through. Where the groomer had to cut a tight corner there were 1 foot round slush balls sitting at the edge of the trail.


I wouldn't criticize any clubs action this week. Warm temps, available operators, grooming window, available funds. Balance all that against what results can be achieved.

Most likely reason for having to dump the snow is due to the warm temps it will not roll and therefore stays in the drag and overloads it. (kind of acts more like a snow plow than a groomer as it won't release the snow) :flush:




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